MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

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.... There are many people in both Malaysia and the western world who thing this trial was always extremely suspect and politically motivated by those who did not like the fact that Anwar Ibrahaim rocked the boat in Malaysian politics. ............

Agreed. The Malaysian opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim has spent many years already incarcerated as a political prisoner. As such a strong supporter of this man, whom the Malaysian govt. is frightened of, I expect the Malaysian govt. will stop at nothing to paint the pilot of MH370 in a very poor light regardless of the outcome of this mystery.
 
I wonder what this is doing for productivity around the world. It's certainly not helping mine.

(trying hard not to sound like a callous b***ard.)

Will we all be talking about this in ten years' time?
 
or finds it a useful coping mechanism,

This one I believe. I've found myself questioning some of my own thoughts and to honest, the lack of "knowing" is hard for all of us and humour is a release, albeit short and perhaps even distasteful to others. Without doubt, I am convinced no one wishes to inflict undue pain on those immediately affected by this tragedy.
 
I wonder what this is doing for productivity around the world. It's certainly not helping mine.

(trying hard not to sound like a callous b***ard.)

Will we all be talking about this in ten years' time?

Yes we will be talking about this in ten years time. Everytime it is shown on Air Crash Investigators someone will mention it on this forum. Just on this thread how times has 9/11 been mentioned?
 
Will we all be talking about this in ten years' time?

Will we be talking about it in 10 weeks time?

Someone mentioned earlier that the media interest will start to wain soon......some footballer spraining his big toe will most likely bump this story. Out of media, out of mind.
 
Yes we will be talking about this in ten years time. Everytime it is shown on Air Crash Investigators someone will mention it on this forum. Just on this thread how times has 9/11 been mentioned?

9/11 is a somewhat different circumstance.
 
Has anyone asked Fat Tony where the bloody thing is?

Have they looked behind Ayers Rock?
 
Has anyone asked Fat Tony where the bloody thing is?

Have they looked behind Ayers Rock?

Fat Tony???

Tony Hancock is not the tiniest bloke around, but I wouldn't call him fat!

(who's fat Tony?)
 
Now I am afraid to ask ......

If you switch off ACARS you obviously don't switch of the satellite link .....got it.

Unless the ACARS system has a separate satcom attached to it.

Some newspaper story explained it today. Apparently the pilot can switch off transmission of data. But they can't completely switch off acars, so it still sends out a "ping", which is interpret as being a keep alive type signal - as in "here I am, just so you know in case I try to send data".
 
Just to continue the "Will we ever forget" theme, tonights ACI is AF447 on 72.

This is probably the most oft quoted flight on this thread after MH370.
 
I've seen a "Lost" pamphlet on a tree, if that is to which you are referring. Poor timing and inappropriate


That's one of them.

There's the MH mystery flight ad. There's the re-make of Gilligan's Island with an MH plane in the background as well as one with Tattoo from Fantasy Island.
 
9/11 is a somewhat different circumstance.

Yes, because it was a US incident. It was also the day that air security and US liberty was put to the sword.

Just to continue the "Will we ever forget" theme, tonights ACI is AF447 on 72.

This is probably the most oft quoted flight on this thread after MH370.

Probably because like the AF flight, it took quite a while before anything was known about the flight and how it became an incident. It is the most relatable, recent flight incident to the current mystery.

I'm not too sure whether we will necessarily keep AF447 in mind in the future years, if only that gives some of us the heebie jeebies to fly AF (a la OZ for similar reasons). I guess people have reservations flying on SQ due to the incident at TPE, but no one really remembers that one (likely because it is not an incident which is very clearly the airline's fault).

Similarly, one of the worst incidents in aviation history - the crash at Teneriffe (hope I got the location correct) - is hardly remembered by any, although it was unlikely the prime fault of the two airlines involved.
 
Some newspaper story explained it today. Apparently the pilot can switch off transmission of data. But they can't completely switch off acars, so it still sends out a "ping", which is interpret as being a keep alive type signal - as in "here I am, just so you know in case I try to send data".

It's not in my normal selection of switches, but I'm sure you can kill the system entirely. Which is why the comments about 'planning' bother me....
 
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I wonder what this is doing for productivity around the world. It's certainly not helping mine.

(trying hard not to sound like a callous b***ard.)

Will we all be talking about this in ten years' time?

I occasionally fly on MH for work. I can justify spending time reading about this at work as "risk management" research.
 
It's not in my normal selection of switches, but I'm sure you can kill the system entirely. Which is why the comments about 'planning' bother me....

The newspaper story claimed you'd have to "go down stairs" to kill it entirely, by tripping/removing the circuit breaker. Basically, 2 switches (switches and some kind of display sequence) in the coughpit and the breaker in the electrical cupboard.

Hand waving stuff here from me. No idea if it matches the technical details.
 
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The Wall Street journal have published some more info on how the search areas were derived as I suspected they were, using the angle data in the ping from the satcomm tranmitter. This is a separate unit to ACARS but does interface with it.

After not receiving new data from the 777 after its automated reporting system was switched off, the automated satellite pings—the digital equivalent of a handshake—originated at a ground stations and was transmitted up to the orbiting satellite high above the Earth's equator. The satellite relays the ping down to the aircraft below, effectively asking the jet if it is still able to send and receive data. After receiving it, Flight 370 transmitted a return ping back up to Inmarsat, which in turn relayed it to the ground station.


Because the angle and distance of the aircraft relative to the orbiting satellite changed as the jet flew over the Earth's surface, each ping to Flight 370 gave Malaysian officials, the National Transportation Safety Board, the Federal Aviation Administration and the U.K.'s Air Accidents Investigation Branch enough information to plot the 777's speed, altitude and changing path.


The Immarsat pings are a "heartbeat" built into the system so that phone calls can be received, marine units typically have a daily heartbeat, portable telephones 8 hours and aviation 1 hour, however this can be changed by the transceiver manufacturer.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304017604579443603302188102?mod=e2tw
 
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