Man-spreading

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I’ve been thinking more about this. I actually find it quite embarrassing if a mans leg is against mine. I wonder if men actually appreciate the personal issues this creates for (I think most?) women. It isn’t an irritation like the newspaper spreading thing but it’s more personal and embarrassing than that.
 
I asked politely if he could please move his leg off mine and he grunted as if i was being unreasonable.

Gentlemen there is no need to man-spread on the plane, you arent impressing anyone, it just makes you a jerk.

It would have been better if you hadn't been polite, as he deserved more than you gave him.

He wasn't a gentleman.

Instead he was either some twit with feelings of worthlessness playing some game, where he is one-up on you and that makes him temporarily have feelings of worthwhileness (had he done it unthinkingly, he would have apologized profusely), or he's the grandiose type who knows he is better than everyone else.

I greatly dislike him already.
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Renato



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I stand guilty here. When doing my SYD - BNE legs, I read the paper. Chance to catch up on Australia, etc. I do try to keep the ballooning paper within my "airspace" but it is hard.
Ah, so that’s you .....lolo_O
 
A few years ago I flew from Aberdeen ABZ to Frankfurt for work. Once airborne, the man behind stretched out and had his feet well and truely in my foot area which meant I did the 2+ hour flight with my feet all the way forward, it got very uncomfortable after a while. I tried standing on his feet etc but all to no avail. It drove me mad.
 

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A few years ago I flew from Aberdeen ABZ to Frankfurt for work. Once airborne, the man behind stretched out and had his feet well and truely in my foot area which meant I did the 2+ hour flight with my feet all the way forward, it got very uncomfortable after a while. I tried standing on his feet etc but all to no avail. It drove me mad.

That’s awful if the person behind does not respond to his feet being trodden on. What other messages don’t go thru ,? Safety briefing?
 
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I actually find it quite embarrassing if a mans leg is against mine. I wonder if men actually appreciate the personal issues this creates for (I think most?) women.

I do public transport daily (as I don't have a car), so forget about planes. I have to deal with men spreading all the time on buses, and I always sit on half my butt if I have the isle seat so that no part of my body is in contact with the other passenger in window seat, be it shoulders arms albow butt legs foot. I am a man, and I find it uncomfortable to be touching anyone anywhere.

Yet, for some reason, most men seem to have no problem with sitting as close to me as possible, fully touching my arm elbo and my legs. If I move myself further away from the other person by effectively kissing the glass window, the other male passenger would move even closer to me to ensure every inch of me is being touched. I don't know what this is.
 
A few years ago I flew from Aberdeen ABZ to Frankfurt for work. Once airborne, the man behind stretched out and had his feet well and truely in my foot area which meant I did the 2+ hour flight with my feet all the way forward, it got very uncomfortable after a while. I tried standing on his feet etc but all to no avail. It drove me mad.
That’s plain nasty. I’d be kicking back. This is where stilettos come in handy.

I do public transport daily (as I don't have a car), so forget about planes. I have to deal with men spreading all the time on buses, and I always sit on half my butt if I have the isle seat so that no part of my body is in contact with the other passenger in window seat, be it shoulders arms albow butt legs foot. I am a man, and I find it uncomfortable to be touching anyone anywhere.

Yet, for some reason, most men seem to have no problem with sitting as close to me as possible, fully touching my arm elbo and my legs. If I move myself further away from the other person by effectively kissing the glass window, the other male passenger would move even closer to me to ensure every inch of me is being touched. I don't know what this is.

It’s unpleasant, and I don’t understand the behaviour at all.
 
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I'm a pretty big guy, 6'2" about 130kg, not morbidly obese by any means, and I make a conscious effort in Y to stay in my box. I always book an aisle seat, and I the. fold one of my shoulders over so my arm doesn't go over into the other seat despite it being excruciating PER->SYD. It always amuses me to see Napoleons and the rarer female "Empress Joséphine" going out of their way to be selfish.
I'd be wider than you at ~120kg and my preference is the "D" aisle seat and I lean into the aisle to allow the person next to me as much room as possible. My shoulder and arm get knocked quite often.

But it's not always men who spread. Last week on VA my wife/daughter grabbed the "D" aisle with spare seat meant for me and I was stuck in the "C" aisle. Elderly lady with solid wide hips. I can see them spread into my seat under armrest. She made no effort to move at any stage through the flight. I leant into the aisle and had an uncomfortable flight as I was cramping up. Wife offered to swap but I wanted daughter to have the vacant middle seat.
 
I was impacted by a recent man-spreader on a flight from Canberra to Sydney. The couple (man in the middle seat, wife in the window seat) had their early morning flight cancelled (as often happens on the route with the most cancelled q flights) and they were rebooked onto a slightly later flight. My WP shadow middle seat was thus filled. The bloke had no idea that he was encroaching on my aisle space. They were both very excited about their trip to Darwin (via Sydney) but nervous that they would miss the flight and we had a nice conversation so I didn't have the heart to mention it especially for such a short flight. Instead I just spread out into the aisle to get knocked by the usual idiots with backpacks and shoulder bags who don't realise that they are bumping people all along the aisle until they get to their seats.
 
I was impacted by a recent man-spreader on a flight from Canberra to Sydney. The couple (man in the middle seat, wife in the window seat) had their early morning flight cancelled (as often happens on the route with the most cancelled q flights) and they were rebooked onto a slightly later flight. My WP shadow middle seat was thus filled. The bloke had no idea that he was encroaching on my aisle space. They were both very excited about their trip to Darwin (via Sydney) but nervous that they would miss the flight and we had a nice conversation so I didn't have the heart to mention it especially for such a short flight. Instead I just spread out into the aisle to get knocked by the usual idiots with backpacks and shoulder bags who don't realise that they are bumping people all along the aisle until they get to their seats.
Why they don’t make people take off their backpacks when boarding planes beggars belief. People stop, wait, turn around to talk to their companions totally oblivious of the people they hit already seated.
 
Approx 7am this morning someone parked across our driveway to get on their phone.

My husband knocked on one of the windows (pax side) and asked her to move forward a few metres so he could drive out of a drive way (bakery & milk run). She told him to **** off and "cant you see Im on my phone?'. Lovely.

its at that point that their passenger side rear view mirror becomes detached from their car ...

Reading printed editions is a joy. One can always take it off the conveyance.

when BNE is your home base and the free papers are The Courier Mail or The Australian, you just hope that the plane has wifi and you can connect to a decent news service.

Why they don’t make people take off their backpacks when boarding planes beggars belief. People stop, wait, turn around to talk to their companions totally oblivious of the people they hit already seated.

add to this people who use the back of your seat as a lever to get up and down ... suffice to say, after 15yrs of solid air travel, I am in the 'Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm' league of letting people know that they're behaviour with these things are impacting me.
 
What an absolute jerk. How terribly rude. I'm so sorry that you had to go through that.
 
Non men can also easily take up same room
Agree which is why I then mentioned ‘paper spreaders’. But this thread is mostly about the man spread thing. People wearing backpacks onboard is another pet issue of mine and as a safety issue I am shocked that bags don’t have to be removed before entry.
 
Why they don’t make people take off their backpacks when boarding planes beggars belief. People stop, wait, turn around to talk to their companions totally oblivious of the people they hit already seated.

If I see a backpack headed toward my face I reach up and make sure it doesnt connect. Half the time they dont even seem to realise that someone has hold of their bag....
 
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