Lisbon - Great Capital.

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My wife and I have been visiting capital cities for the last 14 years, and quite frankly, I had lost the buzz I used to get for the last six years.

But I don't know why, but I got the buzz back in Lisbon. Lots of monuments and other sites to see, pretty happy looking people, and reasonable non rip-off prices in places where anywhere else, I would have expected them.

We thoroughly enjoyed our nine days there. Getting rechargeable Metro cards was easy, since they had an English option, and the cards could be used on Metro trains, buses and trams. Prices using the card on say tourist trams, were considerably cheaper than buying a one off ticket for the ride.

What we liked most was that that feeling of being under seige, with targets on our back - like we get in Rome and Madrid - was totally missing in Lisbon. We kept being warned about pick pockets, especially when boarding trams, but we never saw anything untoward compared to our experiences in other places.

The most dangerous thing about Lisbon is the smooth cobblestones which are present everywhere. First thing I had to do when we walked a few hundred meters down to the shops, was to spend 70 euros on walking shoes with good grip for my wife. She had been wearing runners, which proved totally inadequate, and she had nearly slid over about ten times (I'd nearly slid over twice). Apparently, these smooth cobblestones are a problem mainly in summer.

On a positive note, my wife decided that Portuguese shoes were better than Italian shoes, and bought several more pairs. Result - I had to pay 45 euros in excess baggage for them and other purchases.

One strategy we adopted in Lisbon, was to always walk downwards. Eventually we'd find a Metro to take us back up the hills.

We had one pleasant surprise one day. We had made our way to Monisteros Jeronimos in Belem, only to find it closed because it was a Monday. Cost would have been 10 Euros each to get in. So we decided to have a look at the Maritime Museum next door, where we got in for half prices being seniors. After that we had a tasty meal at the cafe and headed back to the tram stop at 6pm - only to find the Jeronimos monestary now open - and free!

They really love their Portuguese tarts over there, and on the hotel staff's recommendation, I bought some from the shop in Belem where there is a 20 minute queue to buy them nice and hot. Yes, they were very nice hot, but I didn't have the heart to tell them I actually liked them more next day cold out of the fridge.

To sum up, we've unhesitatingly been recommending Lisbon to all our travelling/sight seeing type friends. We aren't night-life types, so can't comment.
Regards,
Renato

P.S. I checked out perfume prices in Sephora and Douglas stores at the Vasco de Gama shopping centre. Prices were about 10 percent higher than in Italy, which in turn are heaps higher than what they can be bought for at Chemist Warehouses back in Australia. It never ceases to amaze me that Calvin Klein, Issey Miyake, Abercrombie and Fitch and numerous other scents for which we pay $30 to $40 for, sell for anywhere between 70 to 90 Euros in Lisbon, and 60 to 80 or so euros in Italy.

If you want to smell really wealthy in Lisbon, stock up in Australia.
 
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We have been to Lisbon twice in the last 3 years and loved it...food, wine, port, egg tarts, fado music, history etc. Also loved the Maritime museum. Quite a cheap European city to base travel around Europe from.
 
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Looking forward to our trip there next month.
Don't forget - take shoes that really grip, in case it remains warm. Apparently, trees put out some sap in colder weather that make the cobblestones less slippery.
Cheers,
Renato
 
Lisbon is amazing, as is Porto. I believe they have a fair amount of shoe manufacturing there, so the shoe comment fits 😂 . And of course, the sardines !
 
Agree with the sentiments here, Lisbon is a great city to visit and offers some of the best value of any major city in western Europe.

It's hilly, but as Renato mentioned, you can use that to your advantage, using the public transport uphill and walking or cycling down hill.

I did a half day bicycle tour with these guys and it was excellent.


It's pretty much all down hill as it starts up at the Eduardo Parque and finishes in Belem. Our group of about 10 + guide had ages ranging from 18-75!

And they serve you fresh Portuguese Custard tarts at the finish.

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We also enjoyed our recent trip to Lisbon. Some great food and we loved the tram rides also. If only we had figured out sooner that although one street may be hilly, chances are if you walk across it then the next parallel or the one after was usually flat!
 
Agree with everyone here on the merits of Lisbon and Portugal in general. We were there this time last year and 2 other places we thoroughly enjoyed were Obidos castle and Nazare.
They were the biggest waves I have seen. There is also a beautiful beach there with many coffee shops fronting it.
 
Agree with the sentiments here, Lisbon is a great city to visit and offers some of the best value of any major city in western Europe.

It's hilly, but as Renato mentioned, you can use that to your advantage, using the public transport uphill and walking or cycling down hill.

I did a half day bicycle tour with these guys and it was excellent.


It's pretty much all down hill as it starts up at the Eduardo Parque and finishes in Belem. Our group of about 10 + guide had ages ranging from 18-75!

And they serve you fresh Portuguese Custard tarts at the finish.

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Very nice shots.
Which reminds me - the drivers in Lisbon generally don't drive nuttily like I've seen in numerous other places. A bike ride there would be pleasant.
Regards,
Renato
 
I spent 2 weeks in year for Lisbon for Eurovision last year, loved it. I know 2 separate groups of people that have been robbed at the Air BnBs there. Similar situations as well, stayed there for a week or more and was robbed on their second last days. Left things like passports etc.
 
Loved my time in Portugal when I went, including Lisbon. Had one of the best steak dinners ever at a restaurant there. Sintra - so many palaces to see, you could easily spend 3 days out there.
 
thanks for the recommendations, currently in the early stages of planning a trip to Lisbon next year, hoping to finally cash in my stash of VA points and spend a month in Europe.

i was looking at 7 or 8 nights in Lisbon, would anyone recommend splitting that up and staying somewhere else like Porto? or recommend just soaking up everything Lisbon has to offer?
 
i was looking at 7 or 8 nights in Lisbon, would anyone recommend splitting that up and staying somewhere else like Porto? or recommend just soaking up everything Lisbon has to offer?

It depends a lot on how you like to travel. There’s certainly enough in Lisbon alone to keep you interested for that length of time.

I did seven nights in Lisbon and five in Porto earlier this year and next time I’ll probably stick to Porto, but I can say that because I’ve already had a decent stay in Lisbon.
 
this is hopefully our first trip where it's not a maximum of 4 nights in 1 spot at a time so looking to set up more of a 'home base' for a week at a time in a few different spots and avoid too much transit (potentially we will both be working remotely 3-4 hours each day)

we should be there this time next year so hopefully the weather's still warm, the train's only 3 hours i suppose so it's probably doable... easy enough to type emails on a train :D
 
thanks for the recommendations, currently in the early stages of planning a trip to Lisbon next year, hoping to finally cash in my stash of VA points and spend a month in Europe.

i was looking at 7 or 8 nights in Lisbon, would anyone recommend splitting that up and staying somewhere else like Porto? or recommend just soaking up everything Lisbon has to offer?
I would definitely split it up between Lisbon and Porto. Take in Nazare on the way.
 
My wife and I have been visiting capital cities for the last 14 years, and quite frankly, I had lost the buzz I used to get for the last six years.

But I don't know why, but I got the buzz back in Lisbon. Lots of monuments and other sites to see, pretty happy looking people, and reasonable non rip-off prices in places where anywhere else, I would have expected them.

We thoroughly enjoyed our nine days there. Getting rechargeable Metro cards was easy, since they had an English option, and the cards could be used on Metro trains, buses and trams. Prices using the card on say tourist trams, were considerably cheaper than buying a one off ticket for the ride.

What we liked most was that that feeling of being under seige, with targets on our back - like we get in Rome and Madrid - was totally missing in Lisbon. We kept being warned about pick pockets, especially when boarding trams, but we never saw anything untoward compared to our experiences in other places.

The most dangerous thing about Lisbon is the smooth cobblestones which are present everywhere. First thing I had to do when we walked a few hundred meters down to the shops, was to spend 70 euros on walking shoes with good grip for my wife. She had been wearing runners, which proved totally inadequate, and she had nearly slid over about ten times (I'd nearly slid over twice). Apparently, these smooth cobblestones are a problem mainly in summer.

On a positive note, my wife decided that Portuguese shoes were better than Italian shoes, and bought several more pairs. Result - I had to pay 45 euros in excess baggage for them and other purchases.

One strategy we adopted in Lisbon, was to always walk downwards. Eventually we'd find a Metro to take us back up the hills.

We had one pleasant surprise one day. We had made our way to Monisteros Jeronimos in Belem, only to find it closed because it was a Monday. Cost would have been 10 Euros each to get in. So we decided to have a look at the Maritime Museum next door, where we got in for half prices being seniors. After that we had a tasty meal at the cafe and headed back to the tram stop at 6pm - only to find the Jeronimos monestary now open - and free!

They really love their Portuguese tarts over there, and on the hotel staff's recommendation, I bought some from the shop in Belem where there is a 20 minute queue to buy them nice and hot. Yes, they were very nice hot, but I didn't have the heart to tell them I actually liked them more next day cold out of the fridge.

To sum up, we've unhesitatingly been recommending Lisbon to all our travelling/sight seeing type friends. We aren't night-life types, so can't comment.
Regards,
Renato

P.S. I checked out perfume prices in Sephora and Douglas stores at the Vasco de Gama shopping centre. Prices were about 10 percent higher than in Italy, which in turn are heaps higher than what they can be bought for at Chemist Warehouses back in Australia. It never ceases to amaze me that Calvin Klein, Issey Miyake, Abercrombie and Fitch and numerous other scents for which we pay $30 to $40 for, sell for anywhere between 70 to 90 Euros in Lisbon, and 60 to 80 or so euros in Italy.

If you want to smell really wealthy in Lisbon, stock up in Australia.
Thanks for your thoughts. I am now looking forward to going there next year!
 
Another thumbs up. First visit 6 months ago, not long enough.
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Our favoured way uphill from Baixa to Chiado was not the touristy and queue-ridden Elevador de Santa Justa, but the Elevador or the many Escaladores ;) in the nearby Armazens do Chiado shopping centre. Or of course the metro, but that’s not scenic.

Catch the great trip but allegedly pickpocket infested 28 tram from the terminus at Praça Martim Moniz, where you get on first, before the crowds, and choose your seat. We learnt the hard way about pickpockets and boarding jam packed trams many years ago.

Hmm better plan another visit :)

Cheers skip.
 
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