Latest Qantas Business Amenity - Looks and Feels so Cheap

[Pushka]

They get thrown out.

Yes. They have to be. Cleaners don't have time to inspect the contents and see if they've opened.

 

[Lat34]

They get thrown out.

If I have backpack space, I usually pickup left-behind amenity kits exiting the aircraft then later hand on a bulk donation to eg Wayside Chapel / local women's shelter etc. They re-use and re-fill as appropriate for each client. Same with left behind & unused PJs that I understand are much in demand by rough sleepers for extra warmth during cold nights.
Once I mentioned my (above) behaviour on QF flight LAX to SYD and the CSM presented me with a "hugggeee" plastic QF carry bag of unopened packs plus some other incidentals (shaving kits/ toothbush packs etc).
Always welcome and appreciated by those helping others in need

 

[justinbrett]

Yes. They have to be. Cleaners don't have time to inspect the contents and see if they've opened.

They are sealed.

It’s very easy to tell if it’s been opened as you need to break the plastic tag through the zipper.

 

[DC3]

If I have backpack space, I usually pickup left-behind amenity kits exiting the aircraft then later hand on a bulk donation to eg Wayside Chapel / local women's shelter etc. They re-use and re-fill as appropriate for each client. Same with left behind & unused PJs that I understand are much in demand by rough sleepers for extra warmth during cold nights.

No temptation with pillows, blankets, duvet, etc, space permitting,

 

[Lat34]

No temptation with pillows, blankets, duvet, etc, space permitting,

Nah... neva enuf space for dis stuff bro

 

[MEL_Traveller]

They are sealed.

It’s very easy to tell if it’s been opened as you need to break the plastic tag through the zipper.

The original question was what happens to the used ones left behind. They are thrown out. It’s possible some people have just used one item like ear plugs, but left everything else unused.

Many airlines will collect unused amenity kits from unoccupied seats before takeoff. Which is probably a ‘greener’ option. Better still would be to allow pax to tailor their own contents, like they do on Japanese airlines.

 

[justinbrett]

The original question was what happens to the used ones left behind. They are thrown out. It’s possible some people have just used one item like ear plugs, but left everything else unused.

That may be so, but there’s no reason why QF couldn’t reuse sealed amenity kits. You simply can’t access the contents without breaking the seal.
I’m not convinced they never get reused. Nobody would know either way.

 

[Pushka]

They are sealed.

It’s very easy to tell if it’s been opened as you need to break the plastic tag through the zipper.

Yes that's what I meant by being sealed. But cleaners don't have time to find this tag for a preliminary sort. Just chuck everything in the rubbish bag.

That may be so, but there’s no reason why QF couldn’t reuse sealed amenity kits. You simply can’t access the contents without breaking the seal.
I’m not convinced they never get reused. Nobody would know either way.

But they don't. I've asked a crew member what happens to them. And that was post Covid. No one wants to rummage through contents like this post Covid. And there's no value gained for time spent. They are worth like $5?

 

[justinbrett]

Yes that's what I meant by being sealed. But cleaners don't have time to find this tag for a preliminary sort. Just chuck everything in the rubbish bag.

But they don't. I've asked a crew member what happens to them. And that was post Covid. No one wants to rummage through contents like this post Covid. And there's no value gained for time spent. They are worth like $5?

Like I said, nobody would know. Just because that’s the answer you got, doesn’t mean it’s always the case.

Cleaners just have to dump them in a bag - they’ve got to do it anyway whether they keep it or throw it out. Someone later can go through them. Considering the effort they go to recycle onboard, I can’t see why this ends on the ground. It’s not really about the cost (though I guarantee it’s a lot more than $5) - it’s the reeducation of waste. Why do you think they took away the plastic cups in Y, even though they’re cheaper than paper cups.

 

[justinbrett]

The cost of labour these days.

Maybe you can think of a simpler process.

So unless all the rubbish is sorted into amenity kit rubbish bags and separated immediately from all the other carp that people chuck on a plane, at the time of collection by cleaners, you want someone to work their way through all the rubbish bags, check the tag, put that aside, for those without tags then check the contents, replenish that missing item, retag and then make them ready for distribution again which means packing them all up and sending them off again which means someone else has to get them to a central location at the airport. At some point they have to be sanitised. Because if someone has chucked a dirty tissue in them then I sure as heck hope that bag is clean. Maybe someone threw up and then rummaged through the kit later? Put a used toothbrush back in it. Wore the socks then put them back in it. Had Covid. Measles. Nah. Even without opening it they are a potential biohazard if not resanitised.

I never said they recycled used kits. I said the opposite, and you’re overstating how long it takes to identify a sealed bag. Like 1-2 seconds.

QF do separate their waste for recycling. They are working towards a zero waste policy.

 

[Pushka]

I never said they recycled used kits. I said the opposite, and you’re overstating how long it takes to identify a sealed bag. Like 1-2 seconds.

QF do separate their waste for recycling. They are working towards a zero waste policy.

unless the unsealed kits are identified and packed separately at the time of collection they are going to get chucked into a rubbish bag with everything else. And even if unsealed they will still need to be sanitised because people are grubs and the kits have been with them for many hours.

A recycling process of waste is very different to a process where a product is recycled as is, from one human to another human without some kind of sanitation process.

I think people could be asked first if they wanted one.

 

[Flyfrequently]

I think people could be asked first if they wanted one.

Fair compromise in this discussion @Pushka
When cabin crew come down the aisle before departure asking if you want PJ's, ask also if you want the amenity kit.

 

[justinbrett]

unless the unsealed kits are identified and packed separately at the time of collection they are going to get chucked into a rubbish bag with everything else. And even if unsealed they will still need to be sanitised because people are grubs and the kits have been with them for many hours.

A recycling process of waste is very different to a process where a product is recycled as is, from one human to another human without some kind of sanitation process.

I think people could be asked first if they wanted one.

They don’t throw away the bedding or the headphones but they have to offload them.

Again I think you’re overstating how hard it would be if QF wanted to keep sealed kits.

 

[Pushka]

They don’t throw away the bedding or the headphones but they have to offload them.

Again I think you’re overstating how hard it would be if QF wanted to keep sealed kits.

But they all need to be sanitised. There's no decision making. Just dump them in. And maybe just a tad more valuable than an amenity kit.

If there was a financial value in Qantas retrieving them then they'd do it.

Fair compromise in this discussion @Pushka
When cabin crew come down the aisle before departure asking if you want PJ's, ask also if you want the amenity kit.

There were a lot of kids on our recent flight. They left them. Why would they want them? Such a waste. They did wear the PJs.

 

[justinbrett]

But they all need to be sanitised. There's no decision making. Just dump them in. And maybe just a tad more valuable than an amenity kit.

If there was a financial value in Qantas retrieving them then they'd do it.

There were a lot of kids on our recent flight. They left them. Why would they want them? Such a waste. They did wear the PJs.

We’re going around in circles. My point remains, it would be very easy for QF to reuse the sealed amenity kits, and I’m not convinced they never do. Perhaps more likely at outstations if stocks are running low.

 

[MelbFlyer]

Where's an actual photo of the current QF amenity kit? Is it post #6?

The last QF amenity kit I got was as per below last year. Pretty simple and unassuming.

I find the ME crew are almost always young and inexperienced.

I think tbh, and from most of the flight attendants I've seen / know, they definitely are the younger / inexperienced type who tend to get the job only to travel the world "for free" and be promiscuous with each other.

Not to generalise or degrade, but that's the general vibe I get from EK flight attendants - young and just looking to have fun.

That's another story though.

 

[Flyfrequently]

Where's an actual photo of the current QF amenity kit? Is it post #6?

The last QF amenity kit I got was as per below last year. Pretty simple and unassuming.

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I think tbh, and from most of the flight attendants I've seen / know, they definitely are the younger / inexperienced type who tend to get the job only to travel the world "for free" and be promiscuous with each other.

Not to generalise or degrade, but that's the general vibe I get from EK flight attendants - young and just looking to have fun.

That's another story though.

Yes, post #6 @MelbFlyer
Also this one from September flight.

Haven't opened it yet!