JAL 777-300ER back on Sydney route

[RB001]

Is there any rhyme or reason to swapping them? Early Aug was 777 then more recently 787 (I saw one take-off on Thursday). We're flying out on 5 Sep and JAL show 787, while Google Flights shows 777.

Only JAL knows the answer to that riddle...

Clicking through a Google Flights link, takes me to JAL, who are showing 777.

 

[Tooner]

Only JAL knows the answer to that riddle...

Clicking through a Google Flights link, takes me to JAL, who are showing 777.
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Which is weird as my flights on the JAL app show 787, but JAL emailed me to tell me it would be a 777 (trashing our seat selections at the same time)

 

[sudoer]

Which is weird as my flights on the JAL app show 787, but JAL emailed me to tell me it would be a 777 (trashing our seat selections at the same time)
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What does MMB say? (on a desktop)

 

[Tooner]

What does MMB say? (on a desktop)

Lo and behold: 777

 

[encryptededdy]

FYI lots of F awards (but 1 per flight) SYD-HND every day 1 Nov ~ 29 Nov and 25 Jan ~ 10 Feb. Can't find any returns.


blegh.

 

[elanshin]

FYI lots of F awards (but 1 per flight) SYD-HND every day 1 Nov ~ 29 Nov and 25 Jan ~ 10 Feb. Can't find any returns.

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blegh.

Didn't try too hard but immediately found a HND - SYD.

I think the problem is the same as highlighted upthread, you can't find it exTYO search. Only as an exAustralia search as part of a return. So multi city calendar is useless and award search sites are useless.

 

[sevenfourtyseven]

FYI lots of F awards (but 1 per flight) SYD-HND every day 1 Nov ~ 29 Nov and 25 Jan ~ 10 Feb. Can't find any returns.

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blegh.

Ouch - the fuel surcharge!

 

[encryptededdy]

Didn't try too hard but immediately found a HND - SYD.

I think the problem is the same as highlighted upthread, you can't find it exTYO search. Only as an exAustralia search as part of a return. So multi city calendar is useless and award search sites are useless.

Ah, I should've known better given I had this exact issue last year.

 

[elanshin]

Ah, I should've known better given I had this exact issue last year.

For reference, I just booked a HND-SYD F award as part of a return. I did an effective dummy first leg which I called and asked to be changed within 24h

 

[csgo]

For reference, I just booked a HND-SYD F award as part of a return. I did an effective dummy first leg which I called and asked to be changed within 24h

is there a change fee when rebooking/changing within 24h?

 

[elanshin]

is there a change fee when rebooking/changing within 24h?

No and that was why I booked then changed it immediately.

 

[csgo]

No and that was why I booked then changed it immediately.

oh thanks! didnt know about this, good to know for the future

 

[elanshin]

oh thanks! didnt know about this, good to know for the future

That's not specific to this, but just a general Qantas policy on all bookings within 24h. Free cancellations and changes.

 

[MELso]

Looks like the 77W is scheduled to be back on JL51/JL52 from 28 March until late September or early October.

Have just wedged a SYD-HND leg in F into my 'get my 4 squiggles' trip in June. The usual 'quirk' of HND-SYD only showing as part of a return booking is still there.

https://flyteam.jp/en/flightnumber/JL52

 

[Kangol]

Looks like the 77W is scheduled to be back on JL51/JL52 from 28 March until late September or early October.

Have just wedged a SYD-HND leg in F into my 'get my 4 squiggles' trip in June. The usual 'quirk' of HND-SYD only showing as part of a return booking is still there.

https://flyteam.jp/en/flightnumber/JL52

Thanks. Was this a recent announcement? I can see plenty of F availability SYD-HND in Jul/Aug/Sep, but nothing on the return.
Seems to correlate with searching through JMB.

The link you posted says "Flight schedules as of October 05, 2026" for JL51/52, so maybe we've missed the boat in the last few weeks.

Edit: looks like some seats available through QFF (and AA) that aren't showing on JMB.

 

[elanshin]

Thanks. Was this a recent announcement? I can see plenty of F availability SYD-HND in Jul/Aug/Sep, but nothing on the return.
Seems to correlate with searching through JMB.

The link you posted says "Flight schedules as of October 05, 2026" for JL51/52, so maybe we've missed the boat in the last few weeks.

Edit: looks like some seats available through QFF (and AA) that aren't showing on JMB.

There should be a lot - just need to search it as a return.

 

[Bbjai]

My experience last year was there are a lot of first class to Tokyo but the return flight is mych rarer

 

[elanshin]

My experience last year was there are a lot of first class to Tokyo but the return flight is mych rarer

Its actually the opposite. But most people don't know how to search for the return. And it won't show up on things like award sites or Qantas multi city.

 

[Kangol]

There should be a lot - just need to search it as a return.

I have been searching as a return. Can see F seats HND-SYD in May, but nothing in Aug/Sep.
This corresponds with JMB availability at the 97.5k level.

Its actually the opposite. But most people don't know how to search for the return. And it won't show up on things like award sites or Qantas multi city.

Oh, I tried "regular" return and Multi city separate segments SYD-HND, HND-SYD.
What is the way you are referring to?

 

[elanshin]

I have been searching as a return. Can see F seats HND-SYD in May, but nothing in Aug/Sep.
This corresponds with JMB availability at the 97.5k level.

Oh, I tried "regular" return and Multi city separate segments SYD-HND, HND-SYD.
What is the way you are referring to?

Oh sorry. I was searching through April and May which are the absolute highest peak season of any JP travel all year.

I just assumed the rest of the months would be the same if the busiest peak had it all showing.

Perhaps they haven't loaded the latter months?