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Is it the wrong time to consider switching from QFF to Velocity?

kurtislee09

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I know it could probably be the wrong time to switch from QFF to Velocity, but here are my thoughts that led me here...
1) I am QF Gold now but I sort of wanna go for Platinum, which could be difficult for QFF due to its high SC requirements while Velocity is far more easier.
2) I fly domestically most of the time and Virgin has a more generous point system allowing you to earn more, especially in business
3) Flights are generally cheaper, especially business saver

But here are also some of my thoughts that are holding me back...:
1) VA is in volluntary administration and the future of it is uncertain (my main concern)
2) Lounges are not comparable to that of the Qantas Business Lounges, which looks more like a QP
3) Fewer international lounge options
4) No First Class Lounge

I'm a bit indecisive between the both programs and given that I'm QF gold already should I make the change and start all over again? Thanks!
 

AustraliaPoochie

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Personally, I would stick with QFF till we know if VAversion2 will still have a VFF.
In the end, we all hope so, but its really up to the new owners, if it all works out.
I am not making any bookings with VA till July, I would just say, wait a bit.
If the new VA/VAversion2 will continue to have a VFF, then good, VAversion2 if they continue with VFF, its a good deal, lounges esp ADL is new, and the others have been redeveloped from the AN footprint, MEL, SYD, BNE, and their VA PER is a new lounge.
Also earning status with the FB twinning is a good deal too, but the new owner might stop all this.
VB when it first started, for the first 5.5 years of its life, didn't have a FF system!
The new owners of VAversion2 might decide its too expensive to have a FF system, and go totally LCC to make up for the expense of the purchase of VA.
We also need to find out if SQ will continue to have a quasi FF agreement with VAversion2, just in case if you get an urge to go up to Asia once the borders are reopened, or DL if you have an inkling for the US.
QF say they expect to start flying more domestic routes in Jul.
 

33kft

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Yes, it's a bad time, because you have no prospect of any better deal than it has been for years now (and all of the reasons you've listed have been true for a long time), meanwhile there is a very significant chance that anything you invest into the VFF program could be lost entirely.

So is it a bad time? Yes, you have zero upside risk to changing now vs any other point in time, and significant downside risk.
 

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I know it could probably be the wrong time to switch from QFF to Velocity, but here are my thoughts that led me here...
1) I am QF Gold now but I sort of wanna go for Platinum, which could be difficult for QFF due to its high SC requirements while Velocity is far more easier.
2) I fly domestically most of the time and Virgin has a more generous point system allowing you to earn more, especially in business
3) Flights are generally cheaper, especially business saver

But here are also some of my thoughts that are holding me back...:
1) VA is in volluntary administration and the future of it is uncertain (my main concern)
2) Lounges are not comparable to that of the Qantas Business Lounges, which looks more like a QP
3) Fewer international lounge options
4) No First Class Lounge

I'm a bit indecisive between the both programs and given that I'm QF gold already should I make the change and start all over again? Thanks!
Sorry, but funniest leg pull I've read for days. Then I realised you might actually be serious 😵

Maybe you don't realise that
  • VA2 has a better than 50% chance of being an airline similar to a version of Tiger.
  • Banks are swapping rewards cards to programs other than Velocity (lack of confidence in the program)
  • VA can't pay its nearly $8B bills and is in administration
  • VA runs out of cash within a month
  • VA owes Velocity a couple hundred million and the Velocity store has stopped trading (I suspect Velocity will not be able to meet all its obligations if VA goes under)
  • there is no guarantee the new owners will recognise status, especially if they take the airline down market.
  • there is no guarantee there will be any lounges at all under the new owners
 
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bodog

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A bird in the hand....
Stick with Qantas and rack up those Status Credits towards LTG or Platinum 😂
 

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