How do you know if you're a dual citizen or not?

[amaroo]

Which I am..... my grandfather was from UK BUT my mother didn't qualify (remember those laws). Of course since 1983, I could in theory get a pr but no citizenship... other sIDE all clear.

Is that because you were born after 1983, or because the link is your grandfather not father?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I can absolutely guarantee that if there was a parliamentary allowance of $10K a year payable to all dual citizens every MP who's eligible would claim it.

But in reverse, how many can be bothered to check?

With the exception of a few MPs who actually do work for the good of the people, it's not like it's an overly demanding job for the pay they get. Oh, they do spend time making sure they get away from home allowances, travel allowances, second home allowances, claim for family travel (in business class), claim their overseas trips (in business class), claim their car allowances.

Making sure you're eligible to run should be a basic. And it takes 10 minutes.

 

[OZDUCK]

The fun keeps coming - Fiona Nash Deputy Leader of the Nationals now joins the Dual Citizenship gang. Perhaps the Nationals should rename themselves the Internationals.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

The fun keeps coming - Fiona Nash Deputy Leader of the Nationals now joins the Dual Citizenship gang. Perhaps the Nationals should rename themselves the Internationals.

I haven't heard anything from Bill Shorten yet re his UK Citizenship by descent.

Did he formally renounce it or are the media only concerned about the LNP or Greens?

 

[Pushka]

I haven't heard anything from Bill Shorten yet re his UK Citizenship by descent.

Did he formally renounce it or are the media only concerned about the LNP or Greens?

I really hang on this given Penny Wong's 'Holier than thou' speech recently.

 

[DontGetMeStarted]

How confusing

I was born in the UK and moved here in my 20's took out Australia Citizenship some years ago...does that mean I am a dual citizen - husband born in Australia

My mother was born in Wales, father born in Southern Ireland

My daughter born 1985 applied for a British Passport and still holds her Aussie one but lives and works in the UK

My son born 1981 would need to go through a few hoops if he wanted to do the same and live in the UK because I think some laws changed

 

[Pushka]

How confusing

I was born in the UK and moved here in my 20's took out Australia Citizenship some years ago...does that mean I am a dual citizen - husband born in Australia

My mother was born in Wales, father born in Southern Ireland

My daughter born 1985 applied for a British Passport and still holds her Aussie one but lives and works in the UK

My son born 1981 would need to go through a few hoops if he wanted to do the same and live in the UK because I think some laws changed

Yup. Unless you renounced it. You were born one.

 

[AisleSeat]

How confusing

I was born in the UK and moved here in my 20's took out Australia Citizenship some years ago...does that mean I am a dual citizen - husband born in Australia

My mother was born in Wales, father born in Southern Ireland

My daughter born 1985 applied for a British Passport and still holds her Aussie one but lives and works in the UK

My son born 1981 would need to go through a few hoops if he wanted to do the same and live in the UK because I think some laws changed

Southern Ireland? So Republic of Ireland? You can claim Irish citizenship too no?

Yes, your son, if born in Australia, falls in to the "by descent" category. Lots of paperwork involved.

 

[Pushka]

So. Taking this a step further. My father's parents were both born in Britain and British citizens. So he was therefore British by descent. So that would mean I was born to a British citizen? Nah. Only allowed for one generation.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

So. Taking this a step further. My father's parents were both born in Britain and British citizens. So he was therefore British by descent. So that would mean I was born to a British citizen? Nah. Only allowed for one generation.

Not sure if/when the rules have changed and you're a UK Citizen if your mother was born there. It used to be only if your father wasborn there so what's goid for the goose wasn't good for the gander.

 

[DontGetMeStarted]

Southern Ireland? So Republic of Ireland? You can claim Irish citizenship too no?

Yes, your son, if born in Australia, falls in to the "by descent" category. Lots of paperwork involved.

Never thought about the Irish citizenship...

 

[moa999]

How confusing
I was born in the UK and moved here in my 20's took out Australia Citizenship some years ago...does that mean I am a dual citizen - husband born in Australia
My mother was born in Wales, father born in Southern Ireland
My daughter born 1985 applied for a British Passport and still holds her Aussie one but lives and works in the UK
My son born 1981 would need to go through a few hoops if he wanted to do the same and live in the UK because I think some laws changed

When did you get Aus citizenship.
If pre-2004 I thought you had to renounce to become one.
Note this may not necessarily impact your children

 

[BacchusMarsh]

When did you get Aus citizenship.
If pre-2004 I thought you had to renounce to become one.

Pretty sure that's not the case based on my experience in 1988.

 

[DontGetMeStarted]

Pretty sure that's not the case based on my experience in 1988.

I am sure that I did not renounce my British citizenship....now you have me worried how do I find out

 

[BacchusMarsh]

I am sure that I did not renounce my British citizenship....

Then you should still have it.

 

[DontGetMeStarted]

Then you should still have it.

From the Aus Gov site

[h=1]Dual citizenship[/h] Page Content
​It is possible to hold citizenship of two or more countries if the law of those countries allow. This is known as dual, or multiple, citizenship.
People can become dual citizens automatically, or after being granted citizenship of another country.
For example, an Australian citizen may automatically gain citizenship of another country through marriage, while a permanent resident of Australia may become a dual citizen by becoming an Australian citizen.
Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically.

 

[BacchusMarsh]

Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically.

Yes, but aren't you talking about going in the opposite direction? Still not sure what you're worried about.

 

[QF WP]

This story truly has more sub-plots than Game of Thrones and is a gift that keeps on giving. Not even going to try and work out the next kink in the story.

 

[QF WP]

From the Aus Gov site

[h=1]Dual citizenship[/h] Page Content
​It is possible to hold citizenship of two or more countries if the law of those countries allow. This is known as dual, or multiple, citizenship.
People can become dual citizens automatically, or after being granted citizenship of another country.
For example, an Australian citizen may automatically gain citizenship of another country through marriage, while a permanent resident of Australia may become a dual citizen by becoming an Australian citizen.
Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically.

So that won't be a concern for any of the incumbent pollies, as they were all born well before that date. The fact that the knowledge about their citizenship is only apparent now (and dates back to their birth), to my mind bears no relationship to that content above.

 

[DontGetMeStarted]

Yes, but aren't you talking about going in the opposite direction? Still not sure what you're worried about.

No not worried now