Hong Kong Fuel Surcharge Regulation to Bite the Dust?

[rock86]

Been reading some articles over the past few days and it would seem that a lot of 'industry experts' believe that the airlines in Hong Kong will get their way with deregulated fuel surcharges in the very near future.

If so, there goes another trick to keep those pesky QFF surcharges in check!

Prepare to pay more for outgoing flights if airlines recoup fuel costs

 

[JohnK]

Qantas is already charging full surcharge on flights to HKG. Surely that's not going to get higher?

Or is it? Remember the many years of fuel going down but surcharges remained and as soon as fuel went up the fuel surcharges went up again.

 

[cjd600]

Qantas is already charging full surcharge on flights to HKG. Surely that's not going to get higher?

Or is it? Remember the many years of fuel going down but surcharges remained and as soon as fuel went up the fuel surcharges went up again.

I think he means flights ex HKG not to HKG.
Itineraries originating in HKG (as per MNL)

 

[sjk]

Just priced an award in EK F:

HKG-DXB-LCA LCA-MLA LIS-DXB-SIN

for HKD1,000 or around AUD170 in co-pay. Ex-Australia it's well over AUD1,000.

Might need to get in quickly.

 

[rock86]

Just priced an award in EK F:

HKG-DXB-LCA LCA-MLA LIS-DXB-SIN

for HKD1,000 or around AUD170 in co-pay. Ex-Australia it's well over AUD1,000.

Might need to get in quickly.

Yeah, and if exHKG gets deregulated we'll most likely lose the benefit of no fuel surcharges, which will be a massive blow due to the easy accessibility of HKG.

 

[JohnK]

I think he means flights ex HKG not to HKG.
Itineraries originating in HKG (as per MNL)

For economy awards there's not much difference booking ex-Aus or ex-HKG.

I booked BNE-HKG last month and the taxes and surcharges were ~$165. I also booked HKG-SYD-BNE and taxes and surcharges were HKD880. Not that long ago I booked HKG-SYD and taxes and surcharges were HKD702 which is ~$120.

And yes some premium awards may end up more expensive.

 

[cjd600]

For economy awards there's not much difference booking ex-Aus or ex-HKG.

I booked BNE-HKG last month and the taxes and surcharges were ~$165. I also booked HKG-SYD-BNE and taxes and surcharges were HKD880. Not that long ago I booked HKG-SYD and taxes and surcharges were HKD702 which is ~$120.

And yes some premium awards may end up more expensive.

Agreed, but I think the benefits derived are more applicable to longer multi-leg international trips ex HKG than the hop between HKG-AUS

 

[JohnK]

Agreed, but I think the benefits derived are more applicable to longer multi-leg international trips ex HKG than the hop between HKG-AUS

How are surcharges on a 5 sector return F award to Europe are only marginally more expensive than surcharges on a one way economy award to Australia.

Makes no sense.

 

[Dr Ralph]

This would definitely hurt me if it went ahead.

 

[serfty]

Agreed, but I think the benefits derived are more applicable to longer multi-leg international trips ex HKG than the hop between HKG-AUS

Agreed; I currently have a QFF award booking LAX-(AA)-xHKG-(QF)-MEL; +++ is USD48.

 

[rock86]

Agreed; I currently have a QFF award booking LAX-(AA)-xHKG-(QF)-MEL; +++ is USD48.

That is interesting. Does the surcharge regulation still apply when transiting HKG even when ticketed from a different country?

 

[Pleb Status]

And yes some premium awards may end up more expensive.

If CX adopted the current QF/BA fuel surcharges (as applied via other ports), ALL CX premium long haul award flights through HKG will be hundreds of dollars more expensive.

 

[kelvedon]

That is interesting. Does the surcharge regulation still apply when transiting HKG even when ticketed from a different country?

Yes

 

[rock86]

Yes

Good to know.

 

[JohnK]

Agreed; I currently have a QFF award booking LAX-(AA)-xHKG-(QF)-MEL; +++ is USD48.

Hasn't Qantas always been good with redemptions ex-USA or do they need to involve AA?

 

[cjd600]

Hasn't Qantas always been good with redemptions ex-USA or do they need to involve AA?

Only on AA.
Quite extortionate ++ on QF ex USA-AUS. A lot more than ex AUS-USA.
AA metal, QF points is minimal ++ either way

 

[ffhound]

Do JAL charge fuel surcharges?

 

[Mattg]

Do JAL charge fuel surcharges?

Generally no or very low fuel surcharges, although there is one (about $80 from memory) on flights to/from Australia.

 

[Himeno]

Generally no or very low fuel surcharges, although there is one (about $80 from memory) on flights to/from Australia.

JAL have regulated fuel surcharges.
It is based on a 2 month average price of fuel in Singapore (converted to Yen at the average exchange rate for the same 2 month period). If that amount is under 6000yen, there is no surcharge.
Prices over 6000 fall into 1000 yen bands. Each surcharge band has varied surcharge amounts based on the zone the flight is to/from.

For flights starting outside Japan, the price bands are based on USD cost instead of JPY in $10 bands.
Surcharge is priced in JPY for tickets sold in Japan, CAD for sales in Canada, GBP for UK, EUR for Europe, AUD for Australia and USD for elsewhere.
Fuel Surcharge For travel outside Japan(International Fares) - JAL