Hi all. Wondering if i can get tips to upgrade to business

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.Is it better to buy or use points to get economy tickets and then upgrade using points? Or it doesn't matter? What's the best way to get business class using points
 
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As the others said best to go for a business award outright. Points upgrade s are never guaranteed. A higher status member decides to try for an upgrade or someone buds a business sest then no upgrade.
 
Thank you all for your knowledge. Makes alot of sense. But thoughts on getting business awards flights is not easy, I seem to get classic awards only and business is never available with qantas
 
Upgrading with points represents very poor value.
Depends on where you’re starting from and hoping to get to. Paid whY to J is still reasonable compared to many other uses of QFF points.
Thank you all for your knowledge. Makes alot of sense. But thoughts on getting business awards flights is not easy, I seem to get classic awards only and business is never available with qantas
Which is why a “classic” points upgrade request on a paid (upgradable) ticket is probably your best bet if you can’t book a Biz reward directly.

But as others have said, there’s no guarantee it’ll come through. Factors include how busy the flight is, how many higher status PAX also requesting upgrades etc. A solo traveller will be luckier than a say a family of four.
 
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.Is it better to buy or use points to get economy tickets and then upgrade using points? Or it doesn't matter? What's the best way to get business class using points
General rule of thumb… for international travel expect to fly in the cabin you have booked. Unless you have close to top tier status with an airline.

For domestic it’s easier… lots of premium seats, you can confirm upgrades in advance, and if not sometimes an upgrade can come through even at the last minute. Plus the max flight time is around 5 hours, so bearable if you miss out.
 
.Is it better to buy or use points to get economy tickets and then upgrade using points? Or it doesn't matter? What's the best way to get business class using points
Status helps, Qantas club also helps. Two years ago, I got upgrades from Premium Economy to Business, SYD to LHR, both ways on points for myself & Mrs. Ozchorlton.
One was New Year's day, so if you pick a less busy day to fly, it appears to help. (Boxing Day / New Year's day).
 

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