Go Arounds

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  1. mgalbraith

    mgalbraith Junior Member

    Dec 12, 2005
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    Hi All,

    A friend of mine flew into Perth the other day and experienced two go arounds in relativley fine weather.

    She says that it isnt the first time she has experienced this going into perth on QF. Although I travel fairly regularly I've never experienced one yet!

    What would cause go arounds, particularly in (apparantley) good weather??

    Cheers
     

  2. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    The previous aircraft still being on the runway is one reason why a go around could occur

    Dave
     
  3. NM

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    In my experience, Dave is spot on. Can happen any time. Unusual to get two on the same flight though.

    Also if the pilot is not 100% comfortable that they are correctly aligned and in stable approach, the correct action is to go around. Its these ones that are more common in gusty or poor visibility conditions.

    Its a pain when it happens at somewhere like Heathrow. My last experience of a go-around there added another 40 mins to the flight as we re-joined the queue to land. That one was due to the previous aircraft not clearing the runway quickly enough and the tower ordering a missed approach. Even then they didn't seem to expedite our delivery back into the approach queue. Maybe our aircraft was going a little faster than ATC had planned?
     
  4. Groundfeeder

    Groundfeeder Active Member

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    I've witnessed two GA's whilst surfing at North Kirra Beach near OOL in the last few months, alerted (but not alarmed!) generally by the rapid increase in noise levels after following the northern approaches. I've heard two also on the scanner during the day and I guess its just the traffic at OOL.

    It's not a long runway but can get congested by training aircraft slow to depart, as well as most approaches by RPT are visual and sometimes they can cut corners when late and tighten things up somewhat for the tower.

    Not a big deal generally in QLD but I guess southern city ports don't take kindly to one getting out of the flow and then threading back into the approach queue.
     
  5. acampbel

    acampbel Member

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    I think an aborted take-off would be the worst thing to experience, but I had a go-around at Sydney a few years back. I (unusually) had a window seat and was interested in the view because we were coming in to the East-West runway. Just as we came over the end of the runway I noticed a single-propeller aircraft that appeared to be taking off in front of us. At that moment the engines went into the red and we pulled into a steep climb.

    There was dead silence on the plane for about 2 minutes until the pilot came on the PA and apologised for the go-around, but said that he never liked sharing his runway with another plane. Fair 'nuff.

    I think it is probably rare these days for go-arounds not to have a 2nd airplane involved to some extent (with the exception of poor weather conditions).
     
  6. DPG

    DPG Member

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    I have experienced an aborted take off but not a go around...

    As acampbel thought, an aborted take-off isn't much fun... I may have told the story before, so I will keep it brief...

    A year or so ago, I was flying LHR-SYD on QF30 and got quite a way down the runway when there was a bang in one of the left hand side engines, and the pilot aborted the take off.

    The sudden deceleration threw everyone forwards in their seats and I (seated in 11A) ended up with everyone's stuff in front of me.

    It was a good experience of a MX problem on a plane though... The pilot explained on the PA what had happened, we taxied back to the terminal, and then they made frequent announcements as to what was going on to get us all home...

    I am sure it is funny watching me now when the plane turns onto the runway as my seatbelt is quite loose until that point, but from there and for the first few minutes of the flight, I make sure it is super tight so if we have to stop suddenly, I am not going anywhere!

    D P G
     
  7. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

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    I've had similar at SYD, except then we were several hours late and so the go around and rejoining queue at the back just made us even later.
     
  8. I have witnessed a go around at SYD from T2 earlier this year. (January, I think) My wife and I were walking down concourse B to our departure gate (58). The active runway was the main strip to the north. I saw through the windows that a QF 747 was taking off and I said to my wife that if she looked through the window that she would be in a perfect position to see the 747 lift off. The AC was no more than 10 metres off the ground when there was an explosion and flames from the left inner engine followed by another explosion and a long burst of flame. This made me feel a little vulnerable as we made our way to our Crash 8 to ABX. The whole airport was shut down. I could see the AC land after the go around and I later discovered that the flight was bound for LAX. The whole incident warranted only a few lines in the papers the following day. I keep thinking about the skill of the guys up front managing that incident on take off.:!:
     
  9. cssaus

    cssaus Active Member

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    Also a very good reason as to why you should also keep a change of underwear in your carry-on-board luggage:)
     
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