General EV Discussion

Ugly doesn't seem to matter, SUV's & dual-cabs are the most numerous vehicles sold these days.
And the expensive ones made by Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc are among the ugliest passenger-vehicles on the planet - yet, they sell.

Also EV's are in-effect automatics, 20 years ago the concept of a car that can do 0-100 in 2.5s as being boring would've been unthinkable - yet here we are!


Going off on a tangent in this thread, I don't have an EV & haven't ever had to deal with charging the ones I've been in. I therefore have zero concept of what apps etc you'd need to install & use if you want to charge at one of those fancy power-points where you pay for the electrons.

This is back-story to the fact that a couple of months ago I was considering a rental in France and (for The Goodies related reasons) driving to the Black Forest in order to go for a Walk in it.
A servo in a foreign language is no problem ... but with no experience, and no idea of whether a trial-run here would teach me anything that would help there, the cheapest alternative of hiring an EV for that trip was just too much of a risk.
The whole drive got canned due to my (German) wife telling me it was nothing special & not worth planning a day-trip around. But what on the outside appeared to be a good way to sample the wares that an EV offers turns out to be notsogood due to the logistics. If it were a multi-day rental being considered, that puts a different spin on things.
 
Ugly doesn't seem to matter, SUV's & dual-cabs are the most numerous vehicles sold these days.
And the expensive ones made by Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc are among the ugliest passenger-vehicles on the planet - yet, they sell.
I suppose they work on the principle, that once you're in the car you can't see what it looks like anyway.
 
therefore have zero concept of what apps etc you'd need to install & use if you want to charge at one of those fancy power-points where you pay for the electrons.
In general each charging network has its own app. So you need to signup (typically pretty easy with saved details and add a credit card)
They are all generally map driven, choose a stall number (sticker on machine), start charging, plugin.

In Australia at the moment I've got about 8 apps on my phone, and could have more.

A small but growing number of machines are adding credit card readers for casual tap and pay (sometimes at a premium). And a few networks are now 'roaming' on others apps.

Some networks also allow you add the details of an RFID card so you don't need to use the app at all. Others (Evie and Jolt in Australia) can save a car serial number so you just plugin (indeed one of the big advantages of a Tesla on the Tesla network).

When travelling some networks may not be available on Australian app stores which can present issues. As above some rentals get around this by giving you an RFID card which then gets charged back.

Hiring a Tesla and only using Tesla charging is probably the simplest due to the integration of mapping and billing. Other EVs or other charging networks adds a bit more complexity.
 
0-100km/h in 2.5 seconds

Is extremely uncomfortable, anything under about 5 is not worth the effort for the buzz..imo
#2 sons R1200 was in this range but I couldn't keep the blood in my brain to use it...

It is interesting that for a hundred years or more the 0>60 time defined fast cars and now almost any chinese ice box
can do times that we all used to dream about...
 
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