General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

[Lynda2475]

The interactive bit in this nbc article is quite interesting:

Data shows how rare severe breakthrough Covid infections are

Covid case figures from two dozen states show that the vaccines offer strong protection against severe illness and death.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[TheRealTMA]

In relation to the wingers on QLD premier, health minister and CHO and the equivalent in VIC, this is very intersting report in the hindsight of the poor performance of NSW, particularly from News Corp.

Decision to lock down Sydney revealed

NSW’s top health official has revealed her team underestimated the spread of coronavirus in western Sydney in the days before the city locked down.

www.news.com.au

 

[hydrabyss]

In relation to the wingers on QLD premier, health minister and CHO and the equivalent in VIC, this is very intersting report in the hindsight of the poor performance of NSW, particularly from News Corp.

Decision to lock down Sydney revealed

NSW’s top health official has revealed her team underestimated the spread of coronavirus in western Sydney in the days before the city locked down.

www.news.com.au

Did Victoria do something similar after last years long lockdown and if so how did they go.

 

[burmans]

In relation to the wingers on QLD premier, health minister and CHO and the equivalent in VIC, this is very intersting report in the hindsight of the poor performance of NSW, particularly from News Corp.

Decision to lock down Sydney revealed

NSW’s top health official has revealed her team underestimated the spread of coronavirus in western Sydney in the days before the city locked down.

www.news.com.au

I think in the pandemic most if not all health departments will have made some mistakes along the way, as we have heard many times there isn’t a playbook for this. What is perhaps more important if how well they learn both from their own experience and those of others, or do they keep making the same or similar mistakes.

The criticisms of QLD premier, health minister and CHO are not about a single incident but patterns of behaviour. Personally I don’t believe you can compare the two.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

UK reaches the 75% fully vaccinated milestone.​

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More than 75 per cent of the UK adult population has received two jabs​

Reporting by Jack Hawke​

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The UK has reached a vaccination milestone, with more than 75 per cent of adults receiving two jabs of a COVID-19 vaccine.​

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According to the government, some 39.6 million people throughout England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have had two doses, while 47 million people have received a single dose.​

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The UK began its ambitious vaccine drive on December 8 last year, with 91-year-old Margaret Keenan receiving the first ever dose.​

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the milestone was a "huge national achievement".​

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"It's so important that those who haven't been vaccinated come forward as soon as possible to book their jab — to protect themselves, protect their loved ones and allow us all to enjoy our freedoms safely," he said.​

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However, the UK also recorded its highest daily total number of deaths since March 12.​

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Government figures showed 146 new deaths within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test on Tuesday, bring the total death toll to 130,503 since the pandemic began.​

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The UK has seen 622 COVID-19 deaths in the last 7 days, which is 15 per cent higher than the previous week, but still well below the 8,000 weekly deaths being experienced at the start of the year.​

Live: Restaurant and cafe owners want to be able to require staff to be vaccinated, according to a new industry survey

Industry body Restaurant and Catering Australia's survey of more than 200 businesses finds 63 per cent support mandatory hospitality staff vaccinations. Follow live.

www.abc.net.au

 

[burmans]

While personally I think they should have kept some restrictions in place (masks inside, social distancing etc.) and they went slightly early the UK does provide a good model of what life after lockdown can look like with high vaccination rates.

 

[jakeseven7]

I think in the pandemic most if not all health departments will have made some mistakes along the way, as we have heard many times there isn’t a playbook for this. What is perhaps more important if how well they learn both from their own experience and those of others, or do they keep making the same or similar mistakes.

The criticisms of QLD premier, health minister and CHO are not about a single incident but patterns of behaviour. Personally I don’t believe you can compare the two.

100%. It’s not whinging -there are seriously credibility and capability questions around the QLD CHO which were present lonnnnng before any of the messy covid management and bungled vaccination rollout here. Anyway will be moved on in November - the best ‘managed out’ of the year.

 

[Seat0B]

Germany to abolish free Covid testing in bid to get more people vaccinated

New regulations part of government efforts to incentivise those without jabs amid a rapidly rising case rate

www.theguardian.com

Germany is set to remove free COVID testing from people who are unvaccinated. Currently, people can get admission to various venues by proving they are vaccinated or having a negative test. They hope that this will encourage more people to get vaccinated rather than rely on tests. There are exemptions for pregnant women, children and those genuinely unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons.

 

[Pushka]

While personally I think they should have kept some restrictions in place (masks inside, social distancing etc.) and they went slightly early the UK does provide a good model of what life after lockdown can look like with high vaccination rates.

Son and his family in the UK continue to wear masks in risk areas and they are vaccinated and in their thirties. Many doing the same.

 

[RAM]

Son and his family in the UK continue to wear masks in risk areas and they are vaccinated and in their thirties. Many doing the same.

Also wearing glasses (if not normally worn) provides additional protection.

 

[Pushka]

Also wearing glasses (if not normally worn) provides additional protection.

Yes. Sunnies. It’s summer time there!

 

[TheRealTMA]

I think in the pandemic most if not all health departments will have made some mistakes along the way, as we have heard many times there isn’t a playbook for this. What is perhaps more important if how well they learn both from their own experience and those of others, or do they keep making the same or similar mistakes.

The criticisms of QLD premier, health minister and CHO are not about a single incident but patterns of behaviour. Personally I don’t believe you can compare the two.

Very glad I don't live in NSW. The unfortunate NSW CHO who should be making the decisions on health grounds re knockdowns etc was like a bunny in the headlights yesterday, and poorly supported by the minister.

 

[Pushka]

Very glad I don't live in NSW. The unfortunate NSW CHO who should be making the decisions on health grounds re knockdowns etc was like a bunny in the headlights yesterday, and poorly supported by the minister.

I’m wondering. Is anyone happy where they are living right now?

 

[mviy]

Germany to abolish free Covid testing in bid to get more people vaccinated

New regulations part of government efforts to incentivise those without jabs amid a rapidly rising case rate

www.theguardian.com

Germany is set to remove free COVID testing from people who are unvaccinated. Currently, people can get admission to various venues by proving they are vaccinated or having a negative test. They hope that this will encourage more people to get vaccinated rather than rely on tests. There are exemptions for pregnant women, children and those genuinely unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons.

That seems like a reasonable step to take. The tests aren't cheap and governments can't keep funding these indefinitely for people who refuse to protect themselves.

 

[burmans]

Very glad I don't live in NSW. The unfortunate NSW CHO who should be making the decisions on health grounds re knockdowns etc was like a bunny in the headlights yesterday, and poorly supported by the minister.

This is NSW, the CHO advises, not makes decisions as is actually required per the Westminster system. We might come back to the question of who's living in the best situation in a couple of months time, as its pretty clear NSW will get to the 70 and 80% threshold way before Queensland so your gloating may be premature.

 

[sinophile888]

I’m wondering. Is anyone happy where they are living right now?

I certainly am.

 

[VPS]

I’m wondering. Is anyone happy where they are living right now?

Yep - could be better but could be a whole lot worse

 

[Pushka]

I certainly am.

You are in Perth? SIL lives in Perth and is over 70. She doesn't want to be vaccinated and doesn't think she needs it, yet she has her son in Melbourne. She seems very happy there but I don't understand why she wouldn't be vaccinated to assist with getting back with family.

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Yep - could be better but could be a whole lot worse

The constant threat of shutdowns here is getting to me. And the inconsistencies in the restrictions.

 

[sinophile888]

You are in Perth? SIL lives in Perth and is over 70. She doesn't want to be vaccinated and doesn't think she needs it, yet she has her son in Melbourne. She seems very happy there but I don't understand why she wouldn't be vaccinated to assist with getting back with family.

Yes, I do live in Perth and consider Perth is the best place in the world right now Covid wise. I've had my 2 shots and want to get a booster if possible, maybe next year.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I’m wondering. Is anyone happy where they are living right now?

For myself it is not the where, it is the when.

I preferred 18 months ago, and will probably be happy again in about another 12 months (6 months if enough people get vaccinated).