General Corona Virus chit chat thread - non-travel specific | Page 136 | Australian Frequent Flyer
Australian Frequent Flyer

Welcome to Australia's leading independent Frequent Flyer and Travel Resource since 1998!
Our site contains tons of information that will improve your travel experience.

Joining AFF is fast, simple & absolutely free - register now and take immediate advantage of these great BENEFITS.

Once registered, this box will disappear. And you will see fewer advertisements :)

Login Now to remove this and all advertisements (GOLD and SILVER members)
Not a member? Register Now for free

General Corona Virus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

drron

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
24,752
Another rare disease that may be precipitated by Covid infection.

And another study with steroids showing a lessening of severity with covid.
 

Pushka

Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 26, 2011
Messages
23,745
Flights
My Map
Another rare disease that may be precipitated by Covid infection.
Oh goody. Another auto immune illness I can develop.

My thoughts are that autoimmune illness can be triggered by genetics (family tendancy); major stress event, or major viral illness. I know I can tick off the first two causing two different illnesses, and my niece developed lupus as a result of the first (tendancy, eg from her father (my sibling) via our mother,) and then viral pneumonia as a teenager where she was very ill in hospital. So Covid is very likely to trigger something. Its just early days of tracking consequences yet.
 

Pushka

Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 26, 2011
Messages
23,745
Flights
My Map
Nephew in law who works in France but escaped to Adelaide to return to his young family in late March has been called to return to France next week. They need to pay a hefty mortgage and so cant just quit. They have two young kids. Usually they travel to see each other every three months. This time - he leaves next Monday currently, he will say goodbye and not know when they will see him again. He wont get enough leave to cover the two weeks quarantine to visit Australia.
 
Joined
May 20, 2011
Messages
5,832
Qantas
Platinum
Flights
My Map

teammongo

Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2016
Messages
150
Ethernet, I am not sure where you are getting your facts.

A bit off topic, so I'll keep it brief.

Thomas Borody has never won a nobel prize. He developed triple H.Pylori therapy.
The prize was won by Barry Marshall and Robin Warren for the discovery of H.Pylori - prior to that gastic ulcers were thought to be secondary to worry and gastric hypersecretion.

I read your article (an interesting read) from the Daily telegraph, hosted on a commercial website promoting its founder (Prof Borody) who specialises in faecal transplants (there are recognised indications for this).

The initial evidence for invermectin on preprint was from registry studies from the surgisphere registry. The same one that was used in the discredited and retracted Lancet and NEJM articles on hydroxychloroquine. A couple of articles in sciencemag and thescientist discuss this. This paper has now been withdrawn.

Following studies, the latest being from Florida. "ICON (Ivermectin in COvid Nineteen) study: Use of Ivermectin is Associated with Lower Mortality in Hospitalized Patients with COVID19" by Cepelowicz Rajter. Again a retrospective cohort study, but it showed an association with a lower mortality. They concluded with "These findings should be further evaluated with randomized controlled trials." So the evidence is in the fledgling stage and needs further investigation, like hundreds of other drugs.

"Dr Borody says he (Pres. Trump) may absorb enough through his skin to protect him, despite people around him at the White House becoming ill." - I would suggest Prof Borody should stick to gastroenterology, as he knows very little about pharmacokinetics. Ivermectin is poorly absorbed though skin, and is very, very unlikely to get to therapeutic levels.

TM
 
Last edited:

TheRealTMA

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2012
Messages
5,544
He’s not a Nobel prize winner.
Can’t find the actual research.
No he's not. The Nobel for helicobacter went to Barry Marshall and Robin Warren from WA. The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2005.

It's interesting how many gastroenterologists seem to be experts in many fields. Remember Andrew Waklefield who was discredited and completely banned from medicine by the GMC for fraud in the UK then went to the US to start a highly paid position at one of their loony "institutes" that still promotes the diswcredited MMR theories.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: VPS
Joined
May 20, 2011
Messages
5,832
Qantas
Platinum
Flights
My Map
No he's not. The Nobel for helicobacter went to Barry Marshall and Robin Warren from WA. The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2005.

It's interesting how many gastroenterologists seem to be experts in many fields. Remember Andrew Waklefield who was discredited and completely banned from medicine by the GMC for fraud in the UK then went to the US to start a highly paid position at one of their loony "institutes" that still promotes the diswcredited MMR theories.
I have very bad memories of a gastroenterologist who almost killed Mr FM :(. He was also a general physician and treated him in emergency, didn’t get him assessed by anyone else, diagnosed brain cancer and discharged him for some R&R. Fortunately we got him over to another hospital where he was assessed by neurologists who them performed life saving therapy for his brain abscesses before they burst and killed him.....
 
Now with contactless delivery, shop online to get drinks delivered to your door or pick up in-store in 30 minutes. Lowest Liquor Price Guarantee. Biggest Range.

Recommended by the Australian Frequent Flyer

drron

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
24,752
So continuing the series of medical articles re Covid.The first I am using will be important for @Pushka.A young woman developing acute SLE with APL antibodies at the same time as becoming Covid positive.

Next a study of 200 Obstetrics staff in London to see whether they had seroconverted.29 had.!0 were asymptomatic.The commonest symptom was loss of smell.17 had continued to work throughout the pandemic.

And a study from Sydney University confirming that transmission of Covid in schools is less than for other respiratory viruses.
 

Pushka

Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 26, 2011
Messages
23,745
Flights
My Map
So continuing the series of medical articles re Covid.The first I am using will be important for @Pushka.A young woman developing acute SLE with APL antibodies at the same time as becoming Covid positive.
Wow. Thanks for that info. Its hard to determine any causal effect from Covid. She sure had a full on autoimmune response. Will be interesting to see if those tests continue to be so strongly indicative. Lupus anticoagulant being the functional test so possibly the other APS markers being low might suggest it might be transitory. It wasnt with me but can be.
 

drron

Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 4, 2002
Messages
24,752
And in today's emails another for @Pushka.A study showing a high incidence of lupus anticoagulant in covid patients.

An effort by 7 US States to ramp up Antigen testing.

And a very interesting studies that up to half of people with no history of Covid or SARS infection had T cells that recognised 1 or more Covid 19 proteins.Why is unknown but possibly exposure to a common cold corona virus.Could this explain why some have less severe disease.
 

Pushka

Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 26, 2011
Messages
23,745
Flights
My Map
And in today's emails another for @Pushka.A study showing a high incidence of lupus anticoagulant in covid patients.
Sounds very much like my profile. Maybe I had covid three years ago? 😱😁 I'd be fascinated to see if they have done an ANA for these people.
 

chelzmalee

Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2015
Messages
362
Flights
My Map
I have found it very interesting to see the number of small home-based businesses starting a roaring trade in masks lately. I am part of several rural-buying pages on Facebook, and it's wild how many people are making masks and selling online. Fabric shops are selling out of elastic and supplies.

I think it's great that people are finding another way to make an income, but some things have certainly concerned me. In particular I saw crochet/knitted ear savers advertised the other day. They take the strain off your ears when wearing masks, which is great, but my concern is that these can't be sanitised.

That said... #shamelessplug ... my brother and sister-in-law are making some fantastic 3d printed ear savers.See here as well as face shields used by a variety of medical and health professionals.

As a crocheter myself I have steered clear of anything COVID related due to concern about litigious Karens and the like, as well as a general dislike for dealing with the general public.
 

mrs.dr.ron

Established Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2010
Messages
1,644
There was a panic buy of sewing machines as well. I bought a couple of the plastic thingys a couple of weeks ago for just in case.
I was in our local Spotlight this morning, 10am and it was packed !! No distancing - the car park was full, it was C R A Z Y ! 🤪
 

chelzmalee

Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2015
Messages
362
Flights
My Map
I was in our local Spotlight this morning, 10am and it was packed !! No distancing - the car park was full, it was C R A Z Y ! 🤪
30% off storewide probably didn't help ;)

The yarn has been flying off the shelves at mine. Everyone took up knitting in iso, apparently!
 

Community Statistics

Threads
86,292
Messages
2,079,254
Members
53,696
Latest member
fly_allegiant_air
Top