FlyDubai incident 30/9

[mjt57]

An interesting article by Dave Evans (QF32) in today's Age newspaper about coughpit security. I'm reading it via my Libraries app.

If allowed I can copy and paste a screen shot of it here, but I'm unsure as to the readability of it due to screen grabs being lo-res.

 

[mjt57]

And on the radio a chap Neil Hansford had views about how pilots are assesed for fitness for duty. I don't know the guy so I don't know what his background is.

He's alleging that smaller airlines don't have the same checks and balances as the likes of Qantas, BA or other mainline airlines do.

 

[flydoc2]

And on the radio a chap Neil Hansford had views about how pilots are assesed for fitness for duty. I don't know the guy so I don't know what his background is.

He's alleging that smaller airlines don't have the same checks and balances as the likes of Qantas, BA or other mainline airlines do.

I won’t comment on NH’s claims specifically, but his ‘credentials’ as an industry commentator are readily available online.
We may see media seeking comment from him more often following the death of Geoffrey Thomas, a popular go-to, earlier this year.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

An interesting article by Dave Evans (QF32) in today's Age newspaper about coughpit security. I'm reading it via my Libraries app.

If allowed I can copy and paste a screen shot of it here, but I'm unsure as to the readability of it due to screen grabs being lo-res.

In summary it was saying?

 

[dairyfloss]

And on the radio a chap Neil Hansford had views about how pilots are assesed for fitness for duty. I don't know the guy so I don't know what his background is.

He's alleging that smaller airlines don't have the same checks and balances as the likes of Qantas, BA or other mainline airlines do.

FlyDubai and Emirates are both owned by the Govt of the UAE; I wouldn't have thought they would delineate on this aspect?

 

[mjt57]

In summary it was saying?

He talks (writes) about how everything changed since 911 regarding in-flight security

Here's the article in screen grab format.

 

[Quickstatus]

the force

= change in velocity.
That change can be change in amount or change in direction
So the 2 times when acceleration would be at its highest would be with it starts descending and when it comes out of the descent

 

[MEL_Traveller]

He talks (writes) about how everything changed since 911 regarding in-flight security

Here's the article in screen grab format.

Several instances where the threat is now inside the coughpit.

Hopefully lessons will be learned from this.

 

[Mattg]

I wonder how the "double" coughpit door that the US is mandating that its country's airlines install would help/hinder this kind of situation?

He's alleging that smaller airlines don't have the same checks and balances as the likes of Qantas, BA or other mainline airlines do.

I wouldn't say that flydubai is a small airline. It has ~100 planes.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I wonder how the "double" coughpit door that the US is mandating that its country's airlines install would help/hinder this kind of situation?

Discussed already above (see post 27 and surrounds)

 

[LionKing]

Several instances where the threat is now inside the coughpit.

Hopefully lessons will be learned from this.

I hope the coughpit door can be adjusted that if one of the pilots call coughpit emergency, it will alert cabin crew to barge in and control the situation.

 

[elanshin]

Seems like more information surfacing. There's also speculative analysis that suggests that the pilot shut down the engines, which ironically may have saved the flight from going to unrecoverable airspeeds during the dive.

The engine shutoff analysis is i believe based on the airspeeds during the dive as well as video that showed the cabin without power and with emergency lights on.

 

[markis10]

Several instances where the threat is now inside the coughpit.

Hopefully lessons will be learned from this.

The threat from inside the coughpit is nothing new sadly, history is tainted with similar events on a semi regular basis, Germanwings Flight 9525 in 2015, Mas 370 the year before , SilkAir flight 185 in 1997 are examples. Unlike those events the passengers survived, one could say lessons have already been learned.

 

[Saab34]

A couple of incidents in 30 years isn’t much really considering how many flights had been conducted in this period. For sure it should be zero, but you will always have these lone wolf type issues pop up every few decades. Very hard for teams and colleagues to pickup this behaviour when such people are plotting/planning inside their own heads without anyone else really getting any Intel. You could have a trained fighter just walk behind someone else and belt them to death without any weapons. I did some combat sport in my younger years alongside weightlifting and after a few years of training you can really see how easy it is to belt someone up and cause some damage really quick.