Flights you couldn't get on Qantas

[SQ421]

I spend less on QF less because where they do/don't fly but because I refuse to pay a premium for a worse product than its competitors on the routes they do fly. The tie up with EK OTOH has opened up an option for me (which I have used in the last year or so) moving my spend away from CX. The 33% J to F upgrade rate on those EK operated flights is tempting enough to stick to it, but I do question whether its worth the 25% to 33% premium over CX that the ticket now costs (and in light of the Simpler Fairer(TM) changes which penalize for picking airlines other than Qantas).

 

[Happy Trails]

In the US there are cities with metro area populations twice to three times that of ADL that simply don't have international services (apart from short hops to YYZ or charters to Cancun). On any carrier, let alone a national or preferred carrier.

Not too surprising, given most Americans never travel outside the USA.
Having said that, I do actually share your sentiment.

 

[Anna]

In the US there are cities with metro area populations twice to three times that of ADL that simply don't have international services (apart from short hops to YYZ or charters to Cancun). On any carrier, let alone a national or preferred carrier.

Not really a valid comparison between the US market and the Aust market. How many of those US cities are 10 hours drive from the nearest international airport? And anyway, what cities are you talking about? Because there are US cities of smaller population than ADL that do have international services, eg PDX for one.

 

[dajop]

And anyway, what cities are you talking about? Because there are US cities of smaller population than ADL that do have international services, eg PDX for one.

Two examples that come to mind are St. Louis and Kansas City that have metro populations of approx 3m and 2m respectively. Admittedly not too far from ORD, but the drive not that important as most people are happy to connect via somewhere. STL used to have services to London and Paris in the TWA days, a bit like PER used to have QF international services ;-)

Also Portland metro is almost twice the size of ADL- don't be fooled by US city populations as they only count people living in the city, not in the full metro area as we do in Australia.

I know US is a different market - but still - even ADL and PER do have lots of choice, just not on QF.

 

[Comoman]

I fly to SE Asia a lot/occasionally Europe out of Perth. As someone has posted QF has no flights at all but I get penalised for flying One World. That is the ridiculous part!

Try Perth - Jakarta, Perth - Singapore. SQ has 4 flights a day PER-SIN. Therefore SQ (hence VA) gets the business. I was on the 2nd last QF SIN-PER in July and it was packed.

 

[harvyk]

Having Qantas / One World be automatically the best choice is not exactly a human right, and no one is holding a gun to your head stating "you must fly Qantas, even if it's going to cost a hundred bazillion dollars". If QF / OW fail to provide the service you require there are always other options.

 

[mannej]

Having Qantas / One World be automatically the best choice is not exactly a human right, and no one is holding a gun to your head stating "you must fly Qantas, even if it's going to cost a hundred bazillion dollars". If QF / OW fail to provide the service you require there are always other options.

So easy to say that being based on the east coast...

 

[harvyk]

So easy to say that being based on the east coast...

Yes and no, unfortunately every single international flight I need to do I'll either need to drive for nearly 4 hours or do a positioning flight. Not too bad for the outbound, but inbound it's a killer. I'd love to have international options 25 minutes down the road.

 

[amaroo]

Yes and no, unfortunately every single international flight I need to do I'll either need to drive for nearly 4 hours or do a positioning flight. Not too bad for the outbound, but inbound it's a killer. I'd love to have international options 25 minutes down the road.

Indeed. For a Dom flight I need to drive an hour plus each way to hop on a QF flight ... for a decent Int sector with the trimmings - add a flight to SYD.

 

[cfellows]

PER - anywhere Int :evil:

recently found und out that you cannot upgrade QF tickets on EK with QF points, ouch!
this is a bit rude, but I am posting on the sour taste in my mouth that I will never be able to spend my QF points on an international upgrade from PER which is my home base. The only hope is an upgrade when flying East on a ticket through to the USA, and only upgrading the Dom leg as the int leg is always unavailable due to the cheap last min tickets my company purchases on these types of trips

i am small fish really but still my annoyance should be heard!

 

[kamchatsky]

What's wrong with you people? Everyone from PER/ADL/CBR/HBA/LST etc should all move to SYD to get great QF services ..... :mrgreen:

Anyway it is a shame that QF and CX has such bad relationships. CX would have been a fantastic QF partner to Asia and beyond.

 

[Hvr]

QF flew to SUB as part of its first service to SIN 76 years ago.

Geez even those of us who are old weren't born then.


MEL-BKK and MEL-NRT are both long gone.

 

[kamchatsky]

MEL-BKK and MEL-NRT are both long gone.

I thought JQ is part of QF Group of Airlines? So what is the problem?

 

[Archphoto]

I thought JQ is part of QF Group of Airlines? So what is the problem?

I don't remember seeing it before, but I was in SIN Tuesday and as my CX flight was taxiing in, the huge branding stating such, stood out like the proverbial dogs b****!!!

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Some people do not like JQ.

 

[ajw373]

I thought I'd start a thread for us to list flights we tried to get on Qantas but weren't available due to route changes which have caused a loss in revenue to Qantas

If you tried to go somewhere with Qantas but discovered they don't fly there then post here.



I'll start off with a trip next week from Perth to Surabaya in J. Qantas can't get me there so I'm going with SQ in J. I tried to stay with OneWorld but the CX flight via Hong Kong was way more expensive.
Lost revenue - a few thousand $

Never knew Qantas once flew to Surabaya. Also not surprising that CX is way more expensive than SQ. A look at a world map may show why. Though I gather this is just another Qantas pulled out of Perth whine fest. (PS I was right, should have read the 3 pages before posting)

 

[ajw373]

Internationally, QF's route network is now so restricted you don't even need to consult a network map, let alone regret the fact that Qantas don't fly there.

Welcome to the real world. As been said by many if a buck was to be made Qantas would be flying to more destinations.

 

[codash1099]

Welcome to the real world. As been said by many if a buck was to be made Qantas would be flying to more destinations.

Always assuming QF would recognise an opportunity if it bit them! These days, they probably don't have the wherewithal to make any decent moves.

 

[dajop]

Always assuming QF would recognise an opportunity if it bit them! These days, they probably don't have the wherewithal to make any decent moves.

They have. North America is where it's at. Extra services from MEL , up gauged DFW services, alternative timings SYD-LAX. Why? No competition from Middle East carriers or LCCs.

 

[Awesom Andy]

I've just been invited to a wedding in Adelaide, and these days, I have the choice of either SQ, or QF to MEL and asks that they descent to 10,000 feet while we're overhead ADL so I can jump out with a parachute.

And my mum has a preference for day flights over night flights. Now that there are no night flights inbound from HKG and SIN, my parents have pretty much abandoned QF by default. They've been doing at least a couple of flights for quite a few years now, plus the occasional domestic ones. All of which have now gone to non-QF.