FINNAIR - new Business Class AirLounge seat

[OATEK]

Business class seats that do not lay flat, but rather the occupant has to wriggle down?
Finnair launches a business class seat that doesn't recline

 

[OZDUCK]

Business class seats that do not lay flat, but rather the occupant has to wriggle down?
Finnair launches a business class seat that doesn't recline

My wife and I had just been looking at the videos about that seat. Our consensus was that the demonstrator was a yoga instructor who was 5 feet ( 1.55m) tall. There seems to be very little room for my clodhoppers in the footwell. The tray table also looked very flimsy and small. The TV screens have also shrunk by 2" - a 20" monitor to 18" monitor.

I assume that it must save money and weight by not having a general recline function. I think that I prefer their old A350 seats as though they were not at all private they seem to have a bit more of a spacious look to them. Still it is a lot better than their Euro J class economy seats.

 

[OATEK]

My wife and I had just been looking at the videos about that seat. Our consensus was that the demonstrator was a yoga instructor who was 5 feet ( 1.55m) tall. There seems to be very little room for my clodhoppers in the footwell. The tray table also looked very flimsy and small. The TV screens have also shrunk by 2" - a 20" monitor to 18" monitor.

I assume that it must save money and weight by not having a general recline function. I think that I prefer their old A350 seats as though they were not at all private they seem to have a bit more of a spacious look to them. Still it is a lot better than their Euro J class economy seats.

I have also been happy with the current A350 seats, which are very similar to the CX seat, but slightly less space. I am not sure older persons with arthritic joints will enjoy wriggling out of their "nests".

 

[moa999]

Official video.
Doesn't really show the mechanism though.

Foot cubby seems similar to the Vantage that QF uses.

And another just on the Air Lounge that shows more detail.

Certainly looks like some plusher cushions the way they've done it.

But not good for those who like half recline positions and the like.

Per DJs aviation it's a new Collins Aerospace product, with Finnair as the launch customer.

 

[SYD]

Think I’ll wait for someone else to try before I buy. Pity, I don’t mind the Reindeer route.

The original SQ A380 bench seat looked impressive, but had marginally recline and needed to be folded over to turn into a bed. So not that comfortable in the end.

No recline at all. Hmm. The funny thing in the video, it shows the J seat and then moves to PE - the very first feature is the recline button!

 

[RooFlyer]

They say they have enhanced the space.

 

[Daver6]

Does not look appealing at all as a J product. Would be marginally ok if you were getting on the flight and going straight to sleep, but those upright lounging positions do not look comfortable to me.

 

[TheRealTMA]

They say they have enhanced the space.

Yes, it’s no larger probably but it’s enhanced with Nordic vibes.

 

[clifford]

I won't be rushing to book it.

I've flown the current A350 Bus class seat and it was OK (not the best, but OK).

This new seat seems like a retrograde step (oh!, my back)

 

[VPS]

The annoying thing now is if you fly Finnair you have to be careful not to get these seats

 

[OATEK]

They say they have enhanced the space.

Our favourite word!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

If you thought these seats looked familiar... you'd be right! They look similar to design concepts released for BA some time ago, shown here: Tetris War

 

[bam71]

I'm keeping an open mind re these seats, and look forward to trying them out. Product wise they seem to fit Finnair's no fuss J product ( Note their menu's ex HEL on all long hauls are the same regardless of destination). They sort of remind me how I go on SQ J bed, sort of lolling about throughout the flight in random ways.

 

[astrosly]

Bit hard to tell from the pictures as most have the people lounging in an almost upright position but it looks like you have to move a fair amount of your body under the seat in front of your to lie down. If that is the case I think I would find it quite claustrophobic.

 

[OATEK]

I'm keeping an open mind re these seats, and look forward to trying them out. Product wise they seem to fit Finnair's no fuss J product ( Note their menu's ex HEL on all long hauls are the same regardless of destination). They sort of remind me how I go on SQ J bed, sort of lolling about throughout the flight in random ways.

I flew AY a lot up to the recent forced covid break. I didn't mind their earlier staggered arrangement, but it seems that they will have to work hard to attract those of use with arthritic joints to take on this new arrangement.

 

[RooFlyer]

As one with a few creaky joints, I’m willing to give it a go. I’d be surprised if the Finns came up with an out and out stinker - although CX did once, with their J class ‘coffins’

 

[Mattg]

I'd be keen to try this product. Looks interesting and I'll reserve judgement about how comfortable it is until I've experienced it.

That said, there is no way my elderly grandmother would be able to get in & out of that seat without assistance.

 

[k_sheep]

As someone who resembles a pretzel when flying, I'd be really interested to try this out.

 

[MELso]

Finnair's also launching a new PE product - this is potentially good news if it reopens MEL-NRT-HEL with comfortable seating at a reasonable price (JL 787 Y on MEL-NRT; AY PE on NRT-HEL)...

(Sadly JL had moved their flights to HEL from NRT to HND a couple of years ago.)

 

[OZDUCK]

Finnair's also launching a new PE product - this is potentially good news if it reopens MEL-NRT-HEL with comfortable seating at a reasonable price (JL 787 Y on MEL-NRT; AY PE on NRT-HEL)...

(Sadly JL had moved their flights to HEL from NRT to HND a couple of years ago.)

While I am sceptical about the new J seats the PE seats looked pretty good for that class. I didn't see anywhere if you get any other benefits regarding food, boarding etc.