[fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in Business under $850

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

It looks like the US DOT has some pretty strict rules in place regarding fare price increases post ticket purchase (not allowed)... which also extend to mistake fares. Their determination (as you can see on page 43 of this pdf link) states that mistake fares must be honoured. The only major condition on this is that the airfare in question must in some way be related to travel to/from or within the USA.

The link is here: (not thanks to me but was originally posted on FT) http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/EAPP_2_FAQ_01-11-2012final.pdf

So anyone with an MI/SQ fare going to the US should be in a good position. Markis10 pointed out that SQ policy was to honour mistake fares. That policy alone I had doubts about, but this DOT guidance actually compels them (that is... it's not really 'policy' but a requirement).

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[smit0847]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

People on FT have been booking cheap F RGN-JFK on KE via ICN. I think this is incredibly foolish given the KE to RAR episode where the cancelled the fares several months down the track.

I didn't book anything after seeing this deal 're-emerge' earlier this week mainly because with a 5 week Euro trip already booked for Sept I just dont have the time to do on a wild J jaunt, even if its heavily discounted.

I also think there is an extremely high chance of these fares being cancelled given several travel companies already have. I can't see small-ish 3rd party travel websites wearing the costs of thousands of 90% off premium seats if the airlines realise whats going on. The SQ offer in the OP of this thread only lasted a few hours and only on this site (I think), meaning maybe only a hundred or so fares were purchased. I think the new FT thread has had something like 50,000 views in 48 hours so its likely many thousands were sold meaning a bigger exposure to the airlines (noting the fares were spread across many airlines).

Also, the longer people wait to see if they are cancelled, the more their costs of positioning flights and accom etc will be, decreasing the saving from their discounted flight.

This is certainly an interesting concept re the currency fluctuation as Ive already heard people argue its not a mistake fare - it was simply priced in a currency that, for a day, changed so much that the fare became very affordable (which means it shouldnt be cancelled!).

To Burma's credit, I think they will have a HUGE influx of tourists in the next 12 months arriving on LCC flights, staying a few days then departing on premium flights!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

haha yes... I wonder if supposed air Asia low cost flights will now be $300 each way to Yangon!!

 

[Austman]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

It isn't silly at all. It is very correct that any party to a contract can breach that contract at any time, and correctly said as well, that it is up to the individual/entity who feels aggrieved to pursue their chose of action.

I meant silly in the sense that it's obvious that anyone can break a contract at any time. Whether it is wise to do it is another matter.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

I meant silly in the sense that it's obvious that anyone can break a contact at any time. Whether it is wise to do it is another matter.

it may well be wise for sq to break this contract... particularly if the ticket is around a peak holiday season and they think they could get $12000 for a fare you've bought for $800. even if they gave you all your incidentals and $1000 compensations, they'd still be $10000 in the clear.

the other reason people don't cancel contracts is because they want a long term relationship with the client. in this case, how many of the $800 fare buyers are going to be long term customers or sq full fare R and F class tickets? that's something they'd need to weigh up.

from a PR perspective, if they cancelled your ticket, how much damage could be done? if you're sitting at a dinner party and tele your friends sq cancelled an $800 fare to new york in first class, I don't think the rest of the table would cancel any upcoming plans they had to fly sq.

 

[tuppaware]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

I have yet to get a cancellation email from CheapoAir.. Its been 20 hours so far.

 

[Abrcrmb]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

I have yet to get a cancellation email from CheapoAir.. Its been 20 hours so far.

I just received an email advising that one of my CheapOair bookings has apparently been cancelled. RGN-KMG-PEK-NRT-LAX-DFW-EZE in F. I believe this is because the PEK-NRT sector was on ANA which have pulled these fares. However, it still appears in various booking management sites, including AA.com, stating that it is ticketed, and all seats have been selected.. interesting.

The other booking still stands! Fingers crossed.

 

[tuppaware]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

I just received an email advising that one of my CheapOair bookings has apparently been cancelled. RGN-KMG-PEK-NRT-LAX-DFW-EZE in F. I believe this is because the PEK-NRT sector was on ANA which have pulled these fares. However, it still appears in various booking management sites, including AA.com, stating that it is ticketed, and all seats have been selected.. interesting.

The other booking still stands! Fingers crossed.

Anyone else heard anything from CheapOair ?
I haven't been ticketed nor have I had a cancellation letter.

 

[Foreigner]

Can anyone make bookings of the fares here:

http://upgrd.com/matthew/great-fare...s-cities-for-under-300-in-business-class.html

Apparently, these are NOT mistake fares.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Can anyone make bookings of the fares here:

Great Fare Sale! Burma to Many U.S. Cities for Under $300 in Business Class - Live and Let's Fly

Apparently, these are NOT mistake fares.

errr yeah. the 'fare' might not be a mistake, but the applied currency conversion rate is a mistake/error, leading to the overall price of the contract being in error and never intended by the airline agent (or so they would argue). this does not mean you have lost any of your rights, but I think it is a bit of a long stretch to say there has not been a mistake in pricing.

in fact I think it is even worse to say it is not a mistake fare. some airlies have said their policy is to honour mistake fares. so if you say this one is genuine, then they could argue that they will not honour the currency conversion error and get away with it.

 

[Danger]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Anyone else heard anything from CheapOair ?
I haven't been ticketed nor have I had a cancellation letter.

If you're referring to the latest round (last 72-odd hours), yes. Cheapo has cancelled a RGN . . . JNB fare on me. I received a confirmation email and PNRs but no e-ticket number.

The reasoning is very odd: "due to the airlines involved, we were unable to issue the itinerary you booked".

 

[BensAdventures]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Anyone else heard anything from CheapOair ?
I haven't been ticketed nor have I had a cancellation letter.

I booked with Cheapoair a few weeks ago, all good here. e-ticket numbers issued, credit card charged, all fares seem confirmed. Fingers still crossed!

 

[oz_mark]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

oz_mark - interesting point you raise regarding the ROE's - I actually thought it was weekly... so I discounted that as a reason for this error. (I know in the past I took advantage of this when the aussie plunged 5 or 6c within a week, but the airlines were still on the old rate!)

Snooped around a bit, and it seems the new exchange rate hit the GDS toward the end of April. I did think that there was a process for flagging large changes - if so, it seems some airlines were asleep at the wheel with this one.

 

[tuppaware]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Its strange with CheapOair.
My first email with them with my last name spelt incorrectly, but after a follow up call they sent out the correct name , it hasn't updated on their site. It has the airline booking refs (which includes Qantas) and comes up on that site, no E-ticket numbers more then 3 days after.

I might ring and see if I can get the name changed.

 

[hedge]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Looks like I missed out. Hopefully some of you guys get something!

 

[pmdg7444]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Booked a JNB run. Looking fwd to hearing about a flood of visa applications to the embassy in Canberra

 

[melaus]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Obviously one of the busiest threads on FT for some time.
Good to see the majority are just hanging in there to see what action provides the best result.
Shame though that some are not prepared to cop it on the chin and are coughing re the deals being made "too public" on their forum in the first place and are asking for some form of exclusivity be be made to "Preferred Members" in the future.

Hope that's not the 'American Way' that may stick (or catch on)!

 

[melaus]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Booked a JNB run. Looking fwd to hearing about a flood of visa applications to the embassy in Canberra

Also the flood of humans boarding positioning flights like with Air Asia out of KUL & BKK

 

[Danger]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

Obviously one of the busiest threads on FT for some time.
Good to see the majority are just hanging in there to see what action provides the best result.
Shame though that some are not prepared to cop it on the chin and are coughing re the deals being made "too public" on their forum in the first place and are asking for some form of exclusivity be be made to "Preferred Members" in the future.

Hope that's not the 'American Way' that may stick (or catch on)!

We "Australians" got a couple of mentions in the extensive thread for stumbling on the fares long before they did. That probaly upsets them more!

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Re: [fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in C < $800

i dont know if there is going to be that much of a rush of visa applications, there is only so many seats available on a daily basis to Yangon, and this number has not changed. Unless Air Asia and Thai start putting on additional flights suddenly