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Madz

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Hi Everyone

My apologies if I'm doubling up.

My partner and I are heading to the States and Canada next year and are hoping that her dad (Platinum, soon to be Platinum One QFF) can upgrade us. The only thing is that under the definitions provided on the Qantas site, I am not eligible.

As we are (obviously) unable to get married, I am not legally his daughter-in-law.

Has anyone had this experience? I'm loyal to Qantas and would be disappointed if this technicality could prevent us from requesting an upgrade.

Cheers
Madz
 

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Refer to this thread for a similar discussion - in summary, you could say you are sisters, cousins, even aunt/niece or mother/daughter. No one will check. But domestic partner/defacto IS a valid relationship for "upgrade a family member" anyway, so I don't think you will have any problems.
 

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Qantas appear to be fairly relaxed in the application of "family" members. I'd be inclined to just select what you feel is your correct position within the family and if imagine it will be fine.

... Or select cousin. We're all cousins in some way or another.
 

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De facto partners are family members. This is the Commonwealth law (since 2009) that Qantas must comply with. If they refuse to upgrade you they may be in trouble (a potentially costly lawsuit)
 
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Thanks for such quick replies.

Sorry if I sound like I'm going on about it, but I just feel like I shouldn't have to say my partner is my cousin. It would be, in my mind, unacceptable for Qantas to deny a family transfer based on sexual orientation.

RE: de facto - I read that as my de facto partner could transfer me points, not extended family of de facto.

Anyway, I have months to figure it out. Maybe Red Roo could shed some light.

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Ah ok cool. I'll check with Qantas and see what they say. Perhaps they should update their site :)
 

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Hi Everyone

My apologies if I'm doubling up.

My partner and I are heading to the States and Canada next year and are hoping that her dad (Platinum, soon to be Platinum One QFF) can upgrade us. The only thing is that under the definitions provided on the Qantas site, I am not eligible.

As we are (obviously) unable to get married, I am not legally his daughter-in-law.

Has anyone had this experience? I'm loyal to Qantas and would be disappointed if this technicality could prevent us from requesting an upgrade.

Cheers
Madz
I think your definitely eligible

"'Eligible Family Member' of a Member means any person the Member can demonstrate, to the reasonable satisfaction of Qantas, as being related to that Member in any of the ways described below:
Husband/Wife
Parent/Step-parent
Domestic Partner/De Facto
Child, including foster & step-child
Brother/Sister
Half Brother/Sister
Grandparent
Grandchild
Son/Daughter-in-law
Brother/Sister-in-law
Father/Mother-in-law
Uncle/Aunt
Nephew/Niece
First cousin "


I would take it that the "in-law" refers to the parents/ siblings of your partner
 

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RE: de facto - I read that as my de facto partner could transfer me points, not extended family of de facto.

:)
Nothing can stop your father-in-law to transfer points to your partner and then your partner will transfer them to you
 

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Personally I would simply use the Daughter in-law option and be done with it, esp as they already acknowledge domestic partner.

Besides, as others have said, QF don't exactly go asking for proof of family ties. (for example, how exactly could I prove I have a relationship to my cousin when we each have different surnames and there is no official paperwork linking me to them).

I strongly suspect that the family requirement would only ever be enforced if QF found a person doing bookings / points transfers on ebay, and certainly not in the case where there is a legitimate feeling of family.
 

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Sorry if I sound like I'm going on about it, but I just feel like I shouldn't have to say my partner is my cousin. It would be, in my mind, unacceptable for Qantas to deny a family transfer based on sexual orientation.
Depends if you want to have an argument with Qantas or get the flight really. As you note they allow the partner to transfer points to you (and they allow him to transfer points to your partner) so its not like their isn't a way to get this done. Totally agree with your view that you should be allowed to marry but given the current law you are, as you note, not (legally) his daugher-in-law. But I suspect that Qantas would be more than happy to allow you to be for the purposes of a family transfer.
 

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Hi Everyone

My apologies if I'm doubling up.

My partner and I are heading to the States and Canada next year and are hoping that her dad (Platinum, soon to be Platinum One QFF) can upgrade us. The only thing is that under the definitions provided on the Qantas site, I am not eligible.

As we are (obviously) unable to get married, I am not legally his daughter-in-law.

Has anyone had this experience? I'm loyal to Qantas and would be disappointed if this technicality could prevent us from requesting an upgrade.

Cheers
Madz
Your relationship is covered by 'domestic partner', and any other provisions should be read in light of that. If a parent can transfer to their child in-law by marriage, the same applies to domestic partnership.
 

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No way! Qantas shouldn't be allowed to discriminate based on who she decides to be in a relationship.

The question isn't about gifting points - it's about a father using point to upgrade - this is something they crack down on. They are two totally different things.

She shouldn't have to lie.

She shouldn't have to disguise it under cousin or auntie.

This is 2014.

Get with the program Qantas.

Red Roo - please help and talk some sense into the program!!!
 

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I understand your need to be open and simply declare your relationship and be accepted. But this is just a booking for a flight. Sometimes it's best to travel down the easy road and save the battles for institutions that really matter.
 

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Hi Everyone

My apologies if I'm doubling up.

My partner and I are heading to the States and Canada next year and are hoping that her dad (Platinum, soon to be Platinum One QFF) can upgrade us. The only thing is that under the definitions provided on the Qantas site, I am not eligible.

As we are (obviously) unable to get married, I am not legally his daughter-in-law.

Has anyone had this experience? I'm loyal to Qantas and would be disappointed if this technicality could prevent us from requesting an upgrade.

Cheers
Madz
My partner and I have travelled on QFF award flights booked from her dad's account (also Plat) on a couple of occasions, never any issue, I was listed as his 'daughter in law'.
 

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Do we know why Qantas persists in having a list of eligible people to assign awards? (as opposed to other carriers where you can just give them to anyone you want?)
 

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Do we know why Qantas persists in having a list of eligible people to assign awards? (as opposed to other carriers where you can just give them to anyone you want?)
Well given the US experience where they don't define but then crack down based on their undisclosed list, I think I prefer having a list.
 

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If the OP were to go the daughter-in-law route, I'd say there's basically no chance of that not being "to the reasonable satisfaction of Qantas".
 

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There is zero need to lie about the relationship. The OP fits the role of daughter in law. The father of the legal partner is using the points to someone who is their daughter in law. It is that simple. That is all.
 

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No way! Qantas shouldn't be allowed to discriminate based on who she decides to be in a relationship.

The question isn't about gifting points - it's about a father using point to upgrade - this is something they crack down on. They are two totally different things.

She shouldn't have to lie.

She shouldn't have to disguise it under cousin or auntie.

This is 2014.

Get with the program Qantas.

Red Roo - please help and talk some sense into the program!!!
To be fair, I don't think there is any discrimination here on Qantas' part, nor that the OP would have any difficulty with the points upgrade. The consensus seems to be that "daughter in-law" would be perfectly fine.
 
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