Electronic authorisation required for EU travel from 2025

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes, we can't argue with that (apart from the $50 a pop fee), but truly the main problem currently with the EES is the fact that each country has implemented its own version (as directed by the useless EU). So it works to some degree in some countries, while others have just given up.

If it was working as advertised by the EU, there wouldn't be such a problem. First timers would register with their fingerprints and photo at the kiosk or booth, and then sail through the e-gate. On subsequent exits and entries, they would just use the e-gate.

We wish.

And why use Indonesia as an example of how to do it well? Surely Singapore (and even Malaysia) is much better?

I thought all first timers, once fingerprinted, still had to see an officer? After they’ve seen an officer, subsequent visits are egates?

It’s the double processing - fingerprinting then seeing an officer - that seems to be causing delays?

 

[kpc]

I thought all first timers, once fingerprinted, still had to see an officer? After they’ve seen an officer, subsequent visits are egates?

It’s the double processing - fingerprinting then seeing an officer - that seems to be causing delays?

As I posted upthread, when I arrived in Amsterdam 3 weeks ago, I went to an empty booth, registered my finger prints and photo with my passport...then straight out through the autogates. All up took less than 10 mins.

Unfortunately the system could not register +1s fingerprints, so she had to be manually proceesed, which took about 45 mins...and I had to wait for her

 

[SYD]

I thought all first timers, once fingerprinted, still had to see an officer? After they’ve seen an officer, subsequent visits are egates?

It’s the double processing - fingerprinting then seeing an officer - that seems to be causing delays?

It’s the dodgy terminals that aren’t working for all - apparently finger prints are problematic (as @kpc posted as I type).

It’s not just Indonesia that’s pretty seamless now. UK has worked with eGates for ages. Uruguay was seconds visiting last year.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

As I posted upthread, when I arrived in Amsterdam 3 weeks ago, I went to an empty booth, registered my finger prints and photo with my passport...then straight out through the autogates. All up took less than 10 mins.

Unfortunately the system could not register +1s fingerprints, so she had to be manually proceesed, which took about 45 mins...and I had to wait for her

Ok, I recall that now.

Bit odd given in Frankfurt and at least some
Other places you have to do both, as standard?

How do they check your bone fides without some sort of interaction?

 

[SYD]

How do they check your bone fides without some sort of interaction?

Biometric passport.

The finger printing is “belts and braces”.

 

[Cossie]

They need a system like Indonesia where you just cruise through.

With what visa, I have been trying to do an evisa for us to enter Indonesia. It really is a cough site, you put all your information and then you get screen message that says it has failed. No reason given.

So you then have to start again, it's a pos.

On the Euro stuff, one of the bosses rellos son in Germany has been working on this new system for a while, he came through Canberra and stayed with us in January. He didn't talk about it much, but
he said that Germany wanted to implement it over 2 years, but the euro bureaurcrats wanted it done in 6 months. I should ask the boss tomask him more about it.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Biometric passport.

The finger printing is “belts and braces”.

Your bone fides as in your intentions to visit or stay in the EU.

I get it that once the ETIAS is in place that might help with processing… maybe… but you can’t just let everyone in simply because you have fingerprint registration. People would just ‘disappear’ too easily.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

With what visa, I have been trying to do an evisa for us to enter Indonesia. It really is a cough site, you put all your information and then you get screen message that says it has failed. No reason given.

I just follow the official link which is reproduced on the Jetstar page for indonesia… you complete your arrivals declaration - which can only be done within three days of arrival, and once you’ve done that it asks you if you also want an e-visa. It copies all your data from the arrivals declaration, so you basically just put in a CC and it’s done!