EK cuts PER to double daily from July 2015

[Pleb Status]

http://airlineroute.net/2015/03/23/ek-per-jul15/

EK422/EK423 have been removed from 06JUL15. These flights competed with the EY services PER-AUH.

 

[JohnK]

Poor PER! First Qantas. And now Emirates.

 

[casanovawa]

Yes, we're having a rough go of it of late...

 

[mannej]

But the A380 comes in, so not all doom and gloom.

 

[Ansett]

What is the reason behind this?

Is it that the extra capacity on the A380 will free up one plane.

Or is that lots of Perth People have jumped ship as in changed airline alliances so demand has softened for EK/QF flights?

 

[smit0847]

Given theyre upgrading the capacity of both the remaining flights im guessing the total daily seats wont be much different!!

 

[Ansett]

If all the previous 777 flights were 200 versions then that would have been a seat capacity of 870. With 1 off 77-300 ER and 1 off A380 V2 it would be a total of 863 seats available a drop of 7 seats.

If it was however 2 x 300 and 1 off 200 it would be a decrease of 155 seats.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Given theyre upgrading the capacity of both the remaining flights im guessing the total daily seats wont be much different!!

As far as I am aware only one flight daily is being upgraded to the A380 (420/421).
Both 420/421 and 422/423 are currently operated using B777-300ERs.
Only 424/425 uses a B77-200LR, though this will be upgraded to a B777-300ER.

Current capacity = 354 + 354 + 290 = 998
Future capacity = 489 + 354 = 843
Difference = 155 fewer seats.

Just for interest, in more detail, the cabin totals are:

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"]
[TR]
[TD]Service [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]J[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Y[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Total[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Current[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]126[/TD]
[TD="align: right"] 844[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Future [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]118[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]703[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]843[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reduction[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]155[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I wish EK would make up for it with a flight from DXB to PER via an Asian city, but I hold out no hope.

 

[Isochronous]

QF should do a PER-SIN-DXB!

 

[dajop]

QF should do a PER-SIN-DXB!

Maybe Emirates should do DXB-SIN-PER. Can't really see QF doing that well between SIN and DXB up against EK's four daily services.

 

[Isochronous]

Maybe Emirates should do DXB-SIN-PER. Can't really see QF doing that well between SIN and DXB up against EK's four daily services.

They'd be codesharing. Maybe EK could drop one SIN-DXB service and re-allocate it elsewhere.

 

[Pleb Status]

The competing EY487 PER-AUH service (to the axed EK service) was well overbooked today and the CSM on the flight said that EY were looking to change the current 332 to a 77W in the future. This change would recover most of the lost seats from EK if implemented.

 

[Reggie]

As someone who books (for family) and flys to the UK/Europe regularly, Emirates have been out priced significantly for about 12 to 18 months by Qatar and Etihad. Point in case, I booked flights for my son and I for boxing 2015 returning end of Jan from PER to Man, and Etihad was $1400 cheaper than Emirates. When you consider I paid $2900, that's a big percentage.

Last Christmas I flew same route in J for $5000ish on Etihad versus $9000 for Emirates, why would one fly Emirates? Qantas really screwed the cheap flights we used to get on Emirates.

 

[slc767338]

QF should do a PER-SIN-DXB!

Maybe Emirates should do DXB-SIN-PER. Can't really see QF doing that well between SIN and DXB up against EK's four daily services.

Maybe they should try and connect with a codeshare to some of QF's international services to/from PER. Oh wait

 

[exceladdict]

As someone who books (for family) and flys to the UK/Europe regularly, Emirates have been out priced significantly for about 12 to 18 months by Qatar and Etihad. Point in case, I booked flights for my son and I for boxing 2015 returning end of Jan from PER to Man, and Etihad was $1400 cheaper than Emirates. When you consider I paid $2900, that's a big percentage.

Last Christmas I flew same route in J for $5000ish on Etihad versus $9000 for Emirates, why would one fly Emirates? Qantas really screwed the cheap flights we used to get on Emirates.

Qatar per-doh which I recently flew was probably only half to 2/3 full in Y (I was in J), but no F service.

Edit: This is despite them being significantly cheaper for a number of friends who recently flew Y to Europe. Perhaps it's just a slow uptake.

IMHO QF should be codesharing all OW partners out of Perth considering all they operate internationally is a busy lounge and a seasonal sin flight.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

The competing EY487 PER-AUH service (to the axed EK service) was well overbooked today and the CSM on the flight said that EY were looking to change the current 332 to a 77W in the future. This change would recover most of the lost seats from EK if implemented.

I have also been told this is planned. Hope they use a 3 class 777!

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I don't know how they sustain these capacity levels out to PER, and it's only going to get worse with the WA economy going in the same direction as commodity prices. I would imagine more cuts will come before new services, and I expect EK will rethink the 380 before too long.

Sorry to depress the locals...

 

[mannej]

I expect EK will rethink the 380 before too long.

Sorry to depress the locals...

I disagree, EK seem to be able to throw the 380's on other routes in similar positions.

 

[ChrisDPom]

I don't know how they sustain these capacity levels out to PER, and it's only going to get worse with the WA economy going in the same direction as commodity prices. I would imagine more cuts will come before new services, and I expect EK will rethink the 380 before too long.

Sorry to depress the locals...

Well there are a lot of us ex-pat Poms based here so Kangaroo route will always get a number of us heading home to see the folks and vice-versa.

Remember we also pay more in Oz for return flights to Europe than they pay over there coming return Europe-Oz-Europe so our visitors still probably getting more competitive flights.

Chris

 

[ChrisDPom]

I disagree, EK seem to be able to throw the 380's on other routes in similar positions.

About 40 x A380 on order so should have the planes available.