Don't Lie across Economy Seats to Sleep?!.

[astrosly]

Interesting that they are allowed to do this as an aeronautical engineer says it is too dangerous.

Traveller Letters: Don't lie down across empty economy seats, warns aeronautical engineer

I am a former designer of airliners and I'm concerned about the suggestion passengers can lie down across a row of seats.

www.traveller.com.au

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Interesting that they are allowed to do this as an aeronautical engineer says it is too dangerous.

Traveller Letters: Don't lie down across empty economy seats, warns aeronautical engineer

I am a former designer of airliners and I'm concerned about the suggestion passengers can lie down across a row of seats.

www.traveller.com.au

The comments by the engineer are fair in relation to unrestrained passengers lying down. It would equally apply to those not wearing a seatbelt in the sitting position. Even lying down it is possible for pax to use a seatbelt.

I understand the crew have appropriate restraints for designated rest areas in the passenger cabin.

As for trim issues - maybe on a smaller reginal jet... where this isn't applicable anyway. But to suggest two or three passengers moving around a 777 would cause major problems is a bit of a stretch. People do that all the time going to the toilet!

 

[astrosly]

The comments by the engineer are fair in relation to unrestrained passengers lying down. It would equally apply to those not wearing a seatbelt in the sitting position. Even lying down it is possible for pax to use a seatbelt.

The point being made by the engineer is that it is not possible to adequately be restrained when lying down across economy seats.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Interesting that they are allowed to do this as an aeronautical engineer says it is too dangerous.

Traveller Letters: Don't lie down across empty economy seats, warns aeronautical engineer

I am a former designer of airliners and I'm concerned about the suggestion passengers can lie down across a row of seats.

www.traveller.com.au

Wonder what he thinks of sitting on the lavatory or even worse walking to it...

Nice click bait

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Wonder what he thinks of sitting on the lavatory or even worse walking to it...

I don't know if you've flown on a wide body, but when you need to use the lavatory, there is a button you press and a chair connected to a track system in the floor comes over to fetch you. You then transfer to the moving seat and buckle your seatbelt at which point it shuttles you to the restroom. I bet you don't even use the provided seatbelt on the toilet!

-RooFlyer88

 

[Must...Fly!]

I don't know if you've flown on a wide body, but when you need to use the lavatory, there is a button you press and a chair connected to a track system in the floor comes over to fetch you. You then transfer to the moving seat and buckle your seatbelt at which point it shuttles you to the restroom. I bet you don't even use the provided seatbelt on the toilet!

-RooFlyer88

How archaic. I always use the little white bag provided in the seat pocket. It does say for human waste only. Don't even have to unbuckle.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

How archaic. I always use the little white bag provided in the seat pocket. It does say for human waste only. Don't even have to unbuckle.

However, that bag is only provided for domestic flights within Australia. Otherwise duty free laws apply!

-RooFlyer88

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The point being made by the engineer is that it is not possible to adequately be restrained when lying down across economy seats.

That’s the thing… it is possible. I use the two adjacent seatbelts in the DE seats to fit around my waist. It is snug and would prevent any ‘fly away’ movement.

I guess many pax would not bother as it is snug, or may not be able to depending on their size and shape. That would validly raise concerns and the crew should enforce that when the seat belt sign comes on.

 

[kookaburra75]

That’s the thing… it is possible. I use the two adjacent seatbelts in the DE seats to fit around my waist. It is snug and would prevent any ‘fly away’ movement.

I guess many pax would not bother as it is snug, or may not be able to depending on their size and shape. That would validly raise concerns and the crew should enforce that when the seat belt sign comes on.

I've done the same when in 'poor mans' business class - I wouldn't have laid down to sleep without being restrained properly. The trick is to roll up and lay out a blanket across the buckles on adjacent seats so they don't dig into my back .

 

[Denali]

I vaguely recall my first OS trip and LAX>Syd and scored a row to myself. I MacGyver'd the seatbelt over my blanket, lied down and slept the entire trip home.

 

[Hvr]

I seem to recall that on the flight from DFW to SYD it was possible for pax to actually purchase a row in Y for their comfort.

 

[jb747]

The point being made by the engineer is that it is not possible to adequately be restrained when lying down across economy seats.

As long as you can get a seat belt to buckle up, you won't be flying up from the seat.

 

[Stealthflyer]

I've done the same when in 'poor mans' business class - I wouldn't have laid down to sleep without being restrained properly. The trick is to roll up and lay out a blanket across the buckles on adjacent seats so they don't dig into my back .

Yes, if you can get a row of three or four seats to yourself, fold one blanket against the buckles and then another blanket over the full depth of the seats. It’s surprisingly comfortable. The only drawback is the belt. It’s pretty tight, but if you wrap it over the top of a blanket, you feel a bit less like a Christmas ham. It softens the edges a bit.

 

[mrsterryn]

Yep definitely laid across seats and had the seat belt on. I am of the plus size variety and it works. Not wonderfully comfortable but doable. I had three seats to myself (Platinum shadow, own seat and I bought a comfort seat )

 

[Forg]

I just Googled whether Air New Zealand still does their SkyCouch thingy … but in doing so, came across the bit where they have belt extensions for when you wanna lie down.

 

[henrus]

Air New Zealand still does their SkyCouch thingy … but in doing so, came across the bit where they have belt extensions for when you wanna lie down.

Air NZ's SkyCouch (also used by ANA and China Airlines) has a clip on the middle seat in front. Then they provide a back with three seatbelts; two loop belts similar to the infant ones but larger (designed for both adults and children) and then a "cuddle belt" that clips to the middle seat in front providing a seatbelt that crosses the bed space.

Cuddle belt:

 

[albatross710]

Perhaps his contribution was poorly edited. words like updraught / downdraught don't sound like aeronautical terms.