Currency conversion - better to sell in foreign land or buy it in Aus?

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if travelling to China I suggest changing your money at a bank in China (or possibly get some in Oz before you leave) - sure the exchange rate at a bank will not be as good as money changers (technically illegal I think) but at least the notes will be real (not counterfeit).

Even ATMs there have been known to dispense counterfeit currency - and the bank of course denied all liability and intimated that the foreigner was trying to cheat them :!:
 
Also, I always carry a small amount of USD with me whenever I enter a new country (especially flying). You never know when the close ATM will be out of service or money, or your card gets refused. You'll want some money to get a taxi to where you're going, until you can sort it out, and USD are well enough accepted to get by most places even if you pay through the nose for the driver to accept them :)m

If you're going somewhere you can get the local currency easily it's okay, but when you can't buy it here and the changers there don't like AUD or are shut, it'll be a life saver
 
I have been wondering similarly about whether to change AUD to Turkish lira here or when i arrive if anyone has recent experience plse?

I have found I got a better rate exchanging Aussie dollars at the exchange shops in Sultanahmet in Istanbul.
 
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I also use 28 degrees but whatever you do make sure you use your pre-loaded money, not GE's money as the interest is quite high. It is easy to transfer money into the account using Bpay.
I have used the Travel-ex card once but never again as the exchange rate is always so far below the FX rate of the day they must be raking in the profits. I now refuse to ever use Tradex for anything.
 
Even ATMs there have been known to dispense counterfeit currency - and the bank of course denied all liability and intimated that the foreigner was trying to cheat them :!:

Yep, have experienced this one first hand! Also just keep in mind that outside of the major tourist countries for Aussies (particularly in Asia), you may have to go to specific banks in order to exchange Aussie dollars, as they are not as accepted as US/GBP/EUR/YEN. Had a recent experience in Taiwan where we could only change aussie for local currency at the Bank of Taiwan, no other banks would do it.
 
If you need to take cash try Supay they are in SYD, BNE & MEL city & a couple of suburbs. Rates seem to undercut the others.
Mostly I use credit cards with the occasional ATM top up but I have used Supay a couple of times. Friends who work for the big banks use them over the staff deals.
 
I keep a 'float' of mixed currencies of about $2000. Take over excess cash, bring it home in SF or NOK. So far I am ahead.
Thailand does trades for 0.5% or less. Aussie banks are 3-5% plus 1% commission! THB and IDR have even worse rates.
If you stay at hostels, or Tafe/Uni you can put up a wanted notice and do direct xchange. The consensus is banks are robbing you blind. I don't play their game, and emergency ATM wdls are few and far between. having money in your 'savings' account is also a good trick, before you go.
 
I keep bank accounts in UK and US as I have worked and lived in those places for much of the time. When travelling in other places, I simply use ATMs because the amounts are small. Most importantly, playing the currency markets is a loser's game unless you are a professional trader. Doing holiday money currency exchanges for purposes of beating the exchange rates makes you a speculator - at best a gamble that will even out over time and at worst a lamb to be fleeced by the professionals.

My pearl of wisdom here for those who want to transfer larger sums (e.g., staying on a sabbatical for a a half year or year in another country, buying a pied a terre in London or an antique Jaguar to ship home): use OzForex for exchange costs a fraction of using a bank and significantly better than any other means I have found except one - see below). OzForex is Australian-based company, teamed early on with others including Macquarie Bank and now has offices around the world. Easy transparent web site and 24-hour call centre. Sort of a high tech version of the "hawala" currency transfer system - you transfer your funds to OzForex account at big bank in sending country and they "transfer" the foreign funds to their account at big bank in the receiving country and finally on to the ultimate recipient's account (whether that is your account or another party's). Frankly, I don't know whether your own funds actually leave the country. I suspect OzForex matches all its daily trades and transfers only the overhang or uses its own reserves. In any event, it is very inexpensive, professionally run and easy to use. For example, a few years ago I transferred a very large sum into my Australian retirement account when there was the one-off high contribution limit for old farts. I figured that my US bank's total charges (fees + rate spread) would have cost $15000. I found on the internet an "aggregator" (retired bank employee) to handle the transfer for $1500 all in, but took a lot of time doing due diligence on the parties involved. Later I discovered OzForex which would have done the deal for low fee and very tight spread totaling about $750.

An even cheaper way to go is Interactive Brokers out of Stamford, Connecticut, USA. This place trades just about anything, including currency, that is legal to trade in the world at rock bottom costs such that you hardly notice. Indeed, Interactive is the trader for many small to mid size brokers, but also serves retail clients. Easy to use. The only catch is that there is a maintenance fee which is very small, but makes this option impractical unless transferring moderately significant sums a couple of time a year.
 
Try a decent size bank branch. some carry packs of overseas currency, mainly American $ euro's and sometimes British pounds or other currency, depending a bit on their clientele.
Other than that an atm maybe a bit more expensive but certainly convenient, currency of the country you are in and the usually the amount you need although recently in Spain and near mediteranean countries the atm's were limited on what they would hand out. This did make it a bit more expensive than normal.
Have a good trip!!!
 
I too can vouch for OZFOREX as I have used them extensively for business transfers for the past 8-9 years. I also have their MasterCard TravelCard which I pre-load with various currencies then can either withdraw via an ATM or use as a debit card. It saves carrying large qtys of cash and you only withdraw what you need and dont end up with excess cash to exchange back once you get home.

The rates that the airport money changers give the the point spread they use amazes me that they can get away with it. I often see greater than a 1000 point spread on USD when, as a business, I get more like a 40 point spread on commercial transactions. Use cards and ATMs as many of the members here suggest. OZFOREX has a very good app you can download to check on near live exchange rates which I use often when away form my desk and PC.
 
If you need to take cash try Supay they are in SYD, BNE & MEL city & a couple of suburbs. Rates seem to undercut the others.
Mostly I use credit cards with the occasional ATM top up but I have used Supay a couple of times. Friends who work for the big banks use them over the staff deals.

I took your advice and phoned Supay this morning for a quote on EUR & GBP. They did offer a better rate than KVB Kunlun, bus alas, they had no money in the city branch to swap. I also tried 3 branches of UAE Exchange, but the numbers either rang out, or they were just incorrect numbers (on the web). Ended up getting it at KVB Kunlun. Still better than Travelex and the banks.
 
Yep, have experienced this one first hand! Also just keep in mind that outside of the major tourist countries for Aussies (particularly in Asia), you may have to go to specific banks in order to exchange Aussie dollars, as they are not as accepted as US/GBP/EUR/YEN. Had a recent experience in Taiwan where we could only change aussie for local currency at the Bank of Taiwan, no other banks would do it.


They say that there is a first time for everything. After decades of travel, last year at Heathrow at the AMEX signed booth, they point blank refused to exchange my Aussie dollars for GBP. I was incredulous - I notified AMEX formally via email but they said, "its not possible". Well I'm telling you it did happen.

Last tip is as follows and I only picked up on it recently during a trip to the US. I took a wad of Aussie dollars to a casino - they changed it with no fees whatsoever. I think that they figure you will spend it/"invest it all" before you can get out of there!

regards

Rono
 
They say that there is a first time for everything. After decades of travel, last year at Heathrow at the AMEX signed booth, they point blank refused to exchange my Aussie dollars for GBP. I was incredulous - I notified AMEX formally via email but they said, "its not possible". Well I'm telling you it did happen.

Last tip is as follows and I only picked up on it recently during a trip to the US. I took a wad of Aussie dollars to a casino - they changed it with no fees whatsoever. I think that they figure you will spend it/"invest it all" before you can get out of there!

regards

Rono

Good one. Top tip.
 
The bigger question really is how much is the OP actually going to convert?

If it's a small amount, does it really make that much of a difference?

That all said, I use the 28 route, makes it all easy for me and I'm not so concerned about the change in exchange rates from the now until travel time if it's a few weeks.
 
Last tip is as follows and I only picked up on it recently during a trip to the US. I took a wad of Aussie dollars to a casino - they changed it with no fees whatsoever. I think that they figure you will spend it/"invest it all" before you can get out of there!

Key question here is what rate did they change it for you at and how did it compare to wholesale rate at the time. 'no fees' doesn't mean much if the rate they are offering already incorporates their fee in it already. Just because it's not an explicit fee charged on top doesn't mean there aren't any fees on it
 
I often put this in perspective when I travel; save here, spent there..... As soon as they see you are travelling you get hit everywhere; taxis, internet, rooms, etc, etc. But I do like the casino route....
 
G8 tip for everyone. New and cheaper way coming to OZ soon. The article was in the AFR. Interface charge £1 per transaction and they use the bank interchange rate. Your money is paid into a account in the same country one lives ie.(Australia).

Much cheaper than other methods I have seen.


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Marki
 
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Thanks Marki.
I was sent a referral by a friend the other day but largely ignored it .. I've now signed up and will look into it once it supports AUD.
 
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