Crediting status to QF for EK flight

[Mickey Mouse]

Hello all!

I'm sure this has been covered before (I've had a look at some previous discussions), but I'd like to make sure before committing...

Weighing up booking EK F flights Oz-Europe-Oz via Emirates versus Qantas:

It would seem the benefits of booking via Qantas, and taking QF marketed/labelled/forgot-the-correct-term flight numbers are that I can go straight to QF Gold in terms of status credits, which may be useful in future in terms of perhaps being easier to book award seats (not really interested in lounges and the rest).

versus

Direct from Emirates, which gives the use of the EK cars (and maybe some other benefits), but only gives EK status (and not quite enough for gold) which is poor value anyway if you are already sitting on a million* unusable QF points as Bronze.


("Minor" problem though, is when I joined QF I didn't realise the significance of the membership anniversary month, and thus always am just past the aniversary when the flights are released for the next year that I want )

I'd assume that I'd get the same F class treatment, same lounge access on the flights, but as far as I can tell, the principle difference is lack of Chauffeur-drive.

Any input welcomed.

Thanks.
(And I'll keep the community updated with anything of note if I take the plunge!)


NB: Boy, does it pain me to be looking at paying around $20K for flights I recently had to cancel that cost less less than $2k via rewards!

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*Well, a million once I waste a few hours getting QF to refund the points they still owe from cancelled reward flights from back when they weren't unobtainable (~$60,000 worth of tickets in today's money )

 

[J-P]

Hi Mickey, I've recently flown a number of QF marketed EK F and J flights so can help here. Basically all you lose out on is a chauffeur transfer and free Wifi access if you are a Skywards member. Lounge access is based on class of travel, or on status, so no change QF vs EK.

You can purchase a ground transfer and wifi yourself so for me it was a very easy choice to go for QF flights. This would be different if you are trying to pursue or maintain Emirates status.

 

[ChrisMars]

Hello all!

I'm sure this has been covered before (I've had a look at some previous discussions), but I'd like to make sure before committing...

Weighing up booking EK F flights Oz-Europe-Oz via Emirates versus Qantas:

It would seem the benefits of booking via Qantas, and taking QF marketed/labelled/forgot-the-correct-term flight numbers are that I can go straight to QF Gold in terms of status credits, which may be useful in future in terms of perhaps being easier to book award seats (not really interested in lounges and the rest).

versus

Direct from Emirates, which gives the use of the EK cars (and maybe some other benefits), but only gives EK status (and not quite enough for gold) which is poor value anyway if you are already sitting on a million* unusable QF points as Bronze.


("Minor" problem though, is when I joined QF I didn't realise the significance of the membership anniversary month, and thus always am just past the aniversary when the flights are released for the next year that I want )

I'd assume that I'd get the same F class treatment, same lounge access on the flights, but as far as I can tell, the principle difference is lack of Chauffeur-drive.

Any input welcomed.

Thanks.
(And I'll keep the community updated with anything of note if I take the plunge!)


NB: Boy, does it pain me to be looking at paying around $20K for flights I recently had to cancel that cost less less than $2k via rewards!

__________________
*Well, a million once I waste a few hours getting QF to refund the points they still owe from cancelled reward flights from back when they weren't unobtainable (~$60,000 worth of tickets in today's money )

QF gold status makes it easier to book award only if you book Qantas metal flight with your points, and only if you book early in advance before the inventory get released to Silver (323 days). At the moment, I would say it is not that usefull as the Qantas international award seats are long gone by then, and the occasional bulk release of seats are made available to everyone at the moment. Things start to change if you can make it Platinum, is that something within reach of your membership year? I don't know much about EK prigram, and the value of almost being gold.

 

[RooFlyer]

Welcome to AFF @Mickey Mouse .

your last para may give you an indication of which way you should go in respect to booking through Qantas versus Emirates. Other things being equal, I would always book direct with the airline operating the flight.

As CM above has indicated, QFF Gold is only of marginal value in snaring award seats - and look where that got you last time!

 

[Kangol]

What is the price difference, booking via QF vs via EK?

 

[Mwenenzi]

I'm sure this has been covered before (I've had a look at some previous discussions), but I'd like to make sure before committing...

Weighing up booking EK F flights Oz-Europe-Oz via Emirates versus Qantas:

It would seem the benefits of booking via Qantas, and taking QF marketed/labelled/forgot-the-correct-term flight numbers are that I can go straight to QF Gold in terms of status credits, which may be useful in future in terms of perhaps being easier to book award seats (not really interested in lounges and the rest).

versus

Direct from Emirates, which gives the use of the EK cars (and maybe some other benefits), but only gives EK status (and not quite enough for gold) which is poor value anyway if you are already sitting on a million* unusable QF points as Bronze.

("Minor" problem though, is when I joined QF I didn't realise the significance of the membership anniversary month, and thus always am just past the anniversary when the flights are released for the next year that I want )

I'd assume that I'd get the same F class treatment, same lounge access on the flights, but as far as I can tell, the principle difference is lack of Chauffeur-drive.

Any input welcomed.

Thanks.
(And I'll keep the community updated with anything of note if I take the plunge!)
NB: Boy, does it pain me to be looking at paying around $20K for flights I recently had to cancel that cost less less than $2k via rewards!
__________________
*Well, a million once I waste a few hours getting QF to refund the points they still owe from cancelled reward flights from back when they weren't unobtainable (~$60,000 worth of tickets in today's money )

With a EK marketed EK operated flight you can credit to the QF ffp. (code share)
With a QF marketed EK operated flight you can credit to the QF ffp.
No need to credit EK flights to a EK ffp unless you want to.
Frequent flyer earning can be/will be different for EK vs QF marketed flights to a QF ffp.

 

[RichardMEL]

With a EK marketed EK operated flight you can credit to the QF ffp. (code share)
With a QF marketed EK operated flight you can credit to the QF ffp.
No need to credit EK flights to a EK ffp unless you want to.
Frequent flyer earning can be/will be different for EK vs QF marketed flights to a QF ffp.

Yes but the point is crediting an EK flight number to QFF doesn't earn QF SC's - and that's significant for some (and thus you'd perhaps want to credit to a Skywards account for that kind of spend and earn - or possibly other partner if that worked out).

It all depends on the overall goals - if status earn (with one or the other airline) is important or not vs things like the CD and free wifi onboard etc.

 

[Mwenenzi]

Yes but the point is crediting an EK flight number to QFF doesn't earn QF SC's - and that's significant for some (and thus you'd perhaps want to credit to a Skywards account for that kind of spend and earn - or possibly other partner if that worked out).

It all depends on the overall goals - if status earn (with one or the other airline) is important or not vs things like the CD and free wifi onboard etc.

Having orphan freq flyer programs can be poor value if you do not get the benefits of status or able to use the ff miles/points/avios
Flying first-business class any status does not give much extra. (more earning multiplier)

Where to Credit | Where to Credit Emirates Flights in F Booking Class

Find the best frequent flyer program for Emirates flights in booking class F!

www.wheretocredit.com

With the "already sitting on a million* unusable QF points as Bronze" my guess OP is a frequent spender more than a frequent flyer.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Thanks to everyone for the replies (and the welcome to AFF).

I wasn't aware that only the QF metal was available earlier to higher status members ... I thought it was the other airlines too. That changes things, I suppose, since being based in PER, there are only the snowflakes-chance LHR and FCO flights on QF metal really (without repositioning).
Another really annoying thing with the timing of this is just missing DSC, which would have been zero to plat (if it applies to codeshares? not being a status-nut I don't know the specifics!) and I doubt I'll be stumping up another F before next march (membership month).

Will have to mull things over in the next (very) little while. I dont think the prices are that different (aside from rising a grand or two each day I leave it)

 

[DejaBrew]

Another really annoying thing with the timing of this is just missing DSC, which would have been zero to plat (if it applies to codeshares?

If it makes you feel any better, DSC only works for QF flight numbers on QF metal.

 

[RichardMEL]

Having orphan freq flyer programs can be poor value if you do not get the benefits of status or able to use the ff miles/points/avios
Flying first-business class any status does not give much extra. (more earning multiplier)

Where to Credit | Where to Credit Emirates Flights in F Booking Class

Find the best frequent flyer program for Emirates flights in booking class F!

www.wheretocredit.com

With the "already sitting on a million* unusable QF points as Bronze" my guess OP is a frequent spender more than a frequent flyer.

definitely agree that orphans are not good and of course, if someone is paying for F then status is absolutely irrelevant.

This is why having some thought to the future benefit or use is important and that all depends on one's circumstances.

Not referring to the OP, but a hypothetical passenger - if they have the budget to afford premium travel for the places they want to go, then loyalty schemes are, at best, a fun add on potentially to get something out of, but probably not a priority or key requirement.

However let's say a pax is able to splurge for whatever reasons, but are looking to future uses (like most of us I would assume) and then it's important, and then you'd want such a big ticket item to have real benefit down the line. That's when a view to medium to long term goals becomes important - and that then also depends on one's situation, projected travels and/or desired ability.

For example, if one feels their travel will mostly be to europe and see EK as the primary mover going forward, then absolutely one would credit to EK and build skywards (since they could also be used on QF for the odd domestic reward/earn). OTOH, if one seems more domestic and other journeys coming along, where QF and oneworld partners might become handy.. plus a goal to reach some sort of status - potentially looking much longer term to lifetime use.. that also is an potential factor.

I do agree with the where to credit it suggestion of course.

Noting the OP is in PER and has indicated a desire to potentially redeem QF rewards again to europe, that's also a factor, but again EK may also be more of a friend given their capacity out of PER as is. It get complicated.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Quick question before I take the plunge ... if I go with QF then is it identical in terms of seat selection via EK MMB as if I'd bought direct from EK?

I don't want to have a reduced/mandated seat selection.

(Even though there are pros and cons on the status, the convincer may be that I probably don't need the car, as I'll likely take my chances picking a car up on arrival at the airport, and drop it off on the way back).

 

[RichardMEL]

Quick question before I take the plunge ... if I go with QF then is it identical in terms of seat selection via EK MMB as if I'd bought direct from EK?

I don't want to have a reduced/mandated seat selection.

(Even though there are pros and cons on the status, the convincer may be that I probably don't need the car, as I'll likely take my chances picking a car up on arrival at the airport, and drop it off on the way back).

I've never had any issue selecting any available EK F seat on a QF codeshare.

 

[exceladdict]

Quick question before I take the plunge ... if I go with QF then is it identical in terms of seat selection via EK MMB as if I'd bought direct from EK?

I don't want to have a reduced/mandated seat selection.

(Even though there are pros and cons on the status, the convincer may be that I probably don't need the car, as I'll likely take my chances picking a car up on arrival at the airport, and drop it off on the way back).

Not sure if you'd consider it but given you're dropping some serious $ on QF/EK F flights it could be worth seeing if you can eek a tiny bit more out of the haul (eg. Would adding per<>sin in qf J help without adding cost? Flying ex Mel or Syd with a qf Dom J leg for an additional 80scs each way plus the F lounges?).