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What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

Chinese police detained 25 plane passengers who opened emergency exits before take-off after becoming angry that their flight was delayed by snow, state media reported, in the latest incident of rowdy behaviour by Chinese travellers.
They were forced to wait in their seats for hours on Saturday after their flight from the southwest city of Kunming to Beijing was delayed, Xinhua news agency said.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/25956606/china-travellers-open-emergency-exits/
 

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and afterwards how would they plan to get back on. lol. do the emergency slides deploy once the exits are opened? otherwise they would just be staring at a 2 storey drop. which i imagine would make them look extremely stupid.

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and afterwards how would they plan to get back on. lol. do the emergency slides deploy once the exits are opened? otherwise they would just be staring at a 2 storey drop. which i imagine would make them look extremely stupid.

Yes, they deploy. And now the aircraft is broken, and there will be an expensive fix before it flies again. Hope they get the bill for that too....
 

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and afterwards how would they plan to get back on. lol. do the emergency slides deploy once the exits are opened? otherwise they would just be staring at a 2 storey drop. which i imagine would make them look extremely stupid.

That "cabin crew, arm doors*" fluff most pax take for granted is the procedure for the FAs to set the doors so that when they open, emergency slides are deployed.

They really are only for an emergency as it will take ages (plus a lot of money besides downtime) to repack the slides. Whilst it may befuddle one to imagine what was going through the minds of the errant pax whilst contemplating forcing the doors and slides, you have to remember that this is a country where delays can cause the gate staff (and more) to be intimidated and/or attacked. There seems to be a "hurt me, hurt you" theme, i.e. if pax don't get what they want from an airline, violence may not be the answer but it provides a sense of justice because someone's incompetence must be punished, often physically.

I don't think these pax will face much of a bill (do you really think they will actually pay it?) nor reprimand to speak of. You'd be lucky if they are subjected to a "standard" bout of ostracising.

* In BA parlance it is known as "doors to automatic".

EDIT: reading the article on another site, it appears two pax received 15 days detention, the rest were released. The pax likely bargained their situation on account of the airline holding them stuck "for hours".

Overall, a little slap on the wrist really.
 
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I think there is already a thread on this.

I wasn't sure where to post this so I guess this may be the right place.
It seemed a Chinese national chucked a tanty on a delayed China Eastern flight and opened the exit door while the plane was taxiing. Obviously the plane had to return to the gate. Apparently this is starting to happen more and more often. Having just returned from China last week and taking several flights in the region, Im not at all surprised.
I suppose European society was probably similar a few hundred years ago so I don't want to be too rude about China.

Passengers open emergency exits on China Eastern Airlines flight | SBS News
 

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My only comment: jail time +/- a fine!!
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

I've just returned from China and am not at all surprised. I took a few domestic and international flights with Chinese airlines and saw quite a few tantys, albeit not to this extent. China's society has a lot of evolving to do before they become a proper superpower...
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

Just my two cents worth:

a ¨five hour¨ delay can be managed by cabin staff to keep pax reasonable. But if they DO NOT MANAGE situation, that is enough time for a significant percentage of the pax to become unruly. Understandably so.
 

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Just my two cents worth:

a ¨five hour¨ delay can be managed by cabin staff to keep pax reasonable. But if they DO NOT MANAGE situation, that is enough time for a significant percentage of the pax to become unruly. Understandably so.
Absolutely, but opening the emergency exits is a tad silly. Especially when any sensible person would realize that would mean returning to the terminal.
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

Absolutely, but opening the emergency exits is a tad silly. Especially when any sensible person would realize that would mean returning to the terminal.


The KEY word here is SENSIBLE and quite clearly this is not the case and another reason why I avoid flying in China and using Chinese Airlines. Common sense as we know it doesn't seem to exist. All that these people worry about is themselves and have no interest in how there actions impact on the safety and well being of others. Oh and don't get me started about common courtesy.
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

difficult to draw conclusions and pass judgements without being there -

how bad would things have to get for 1 of us to consider doing something like this to force an airline to take action?

e.g. force them not to leave us on the tarmac overnight for instance
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

I've just returned from China and am not at all surprised. I took a few domestic and international flights with Chinese airlines and saw quite a few tantys, albeit not to this extent. China's society has a lot of evolving to do before they become a proper superpower...

I would have said: "... become properly civilised..." Gonna be a long time IMHO.

In this case, I believe they were over-wing exits opened so no slides.
I took a domestic flight in China recently (Boxing Day): as the reverse thrusters came off, people started taking off their seat belts and were standing to get their luggage from the overheads as we turned off the runway onto the taxiway.
I usually take a train...
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

I would have said: "... become properly civilised..." Gonna be a long time IMHO.

In this case, I believe they were over-wing exits opened so no slides.
I took a domestic flight in China recently (Boxing Day): as the reverse thrusters came off, people started taking off their seat belts and were standing to get their luggage from the overheads as we turned off the runway onto the taxiway.
I usually take a train...
I'm fairly sure I was the only person on a recent Air China (CA124) flight that thanked the FA after receiving food/drink and thanked them on de-planing. I felt sorry for them.

On the topic of now slide over the wing, how do pax get off the wing then? It's still a meter or two off the ground (esp in the big birds).
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

What's a tanty?
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

I would have said: "... become properly civilised..." Gonna be a long time IMHO.

In this case, I believe they were over-wing exits opened so no slides.
I took a domestic flight in China recently (Boxing Day): as the reverse thrusters came off, people started taking off their seat belts and were standing to get their luggage from the overheads as we turned off the runway onto the taxiway.
I usually take a train...

Travel around Chinese New Year, with many novice travellers. Have seen people stand up as soon as rear wheels down, nose wheel not even down yet.

The trouble with China is the spectrum of behavior is so wide, not that everyone is uncivilized. Observed in India that in many situations (unless enforced) queues don't exist. Go to China and half the people are politely waiting in a queue and the other half are thumping their fists on the desk.
 

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Re: What not to do when stuck on tarmac.

I was stuck on the tarmac on AirNZ back in the 80s for four hours after a take-off failure, fuel dump and emergency landing. They managed it quite well I thought. After an hour they served us dinner, then had more food loaded on the plane for the actual flight. They went through the full repertoire of movies (just drop-down screens back then) and kept coming around offering drinks (while somehow avoiding everyone getting drunk). They couldn't offload us as there was no space back in the terminal for a planeload of people who'd already passed security. My mother was anxious but as a teenager, it didn't bother me at all. Of course, that was back in the days when 34" was considered the minimum humane seat pitch and the plane was quite comfy.
 
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