Cathay Pacific Asia Miles major devaluation

levelnine said:
That's a nice problem to have!

CX is, indeed, a frustrating program at the moment. Not only is availability poor and the website a pain, but what's there rapidly changes — sometimes a bunch of availability pops up but then disappears quickly.

It seems to be mostly last minute availability at the moment.

There is some, but not much.
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I'm super impressed !

My search was the other way.. Aus to Europe..

And it used to be so useful prior to covid!! I booked multiple decent redemptions in 2018 and 2019... now it's just a disaster...


Agree with stuff coming and going, and how little correlation there is between the seats icons on the monthly date view, vs actual available seats...
 
woomp001 said:
And it used to be so useful prior to covid!! I booked multiple decent redemptions in 2018 and 2019... now it's just a disaster...
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Once the redemption rates are on par with other programs (eg 110K Australia - Europe), it'll be a very mediocre program. Might as well book SQ or EY with AC miles for 110K instead or QR with Avios for 90K.
 
woomp001 said:
Ok, so I figured out the month thing.. i hope..

After spending an hour or so looking around, I can't find a single business reward seat from AU to the major EU airports, for ANY date, out over the next 12 months.

I searched a matrix of

MEL
SYD
BNE
PER

crossed with

LHR
CDG
MUC
ZRH
AMS

In both business and first!!

That's 40 search's/combinations, and NOT A SINGLE AWARD SEAT OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS

Which frankly is ridiculous.

So I couldn't recommend moving points into the program.

And trying to use "Book with miles plus cash" only ever seems to toss up a full cash price.


My current conclusion: Asia miles are toilet paper.

No wait, that is too mean to toilet paper. At least toilet paper can be used.

I have circa 1,700,000 asia miles (thanks AMEX deval) but I might as well have none.

My next strat is to look at redeeming something on Qatar using them, found on the aa site then the AM call centre??
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Yes i belive you can.
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I'm guessing you're not an Asia Miles Diamond?

Just having a thought that maybe the higher Asia Miles elites may be able to access additional award inventory. Lots of programmes are like that.

It's still a nice problem to have, even if it means you can't have that seat right now.
 
anat0l said:
I'm guessing you're not an Asia Miles Diamond?

Just having a thought that maybe the higher Asia Miles elites may be able to access additional award inventory. Lots of programmes are like that.

It's still a nice problem to have, even if it means you can't have that seat right now.
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Correct, no status with AM

Here's hoping that availability improves under the new rates!
 
woomp001 said:
Ok, so I figured out the month thing.. i hope..

After spending an hour or so looking around, I can't find a single business reward seat from AU to the major EU airports, for ANY date, out over the next 12 months.

I searched a matrix of

MEL
SYD
BNE
PER

crossed with

LHR
CDG
MUC
ZRH
AMS

In both business and first!!

That's 40 search's/combinations, and NOT A SINGLE AWARD SEAT OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS

Which frankly is ridiculous.

So I couldn't recommend moving points into the program.

And trying to use "Book with miles plus cash" only ever seems to toss up a full cash price.


My current conclusion: Asia miles are toilet paper.

No wait, that is too mean to toilet paper. At least toilet paper can be used.

I have circa 1,700,000 asia miles (thanks AMEX deval) but I might as well have none.

My next strat is to look at redeeming something on Qatar using them, found on the aa site then the AM call centre??
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Yes i belive you can.
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I'm pretty sure you will find lots availability after Oct 1st, it's their purpose to wash your accumulated miles off, otherwise there's no point for devaluation.
 
Are there any seat-alert sites, ie. Expertflyer , that actually monitor CX awards via CX (not via AA/QF/JL etc) ?
 
woomp001 said:
Ok, so I figured out the month thing.. i hope..

After spending an hour or so looking around, I can't find a single business reward seat from AU to the major EU airports, for ANY date, out over the next 12 months.

I searched a matrix of

MEL
SYD
BNE
PER

crossed with

LHR
CDG
MUC
ZRH
AMS

In both business and first!!

That's 40 search's/combinations, and NOT A SINGLE AWARD SEAT OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS

Which frankly is ridiculous.

So I couldn't recommend moving points into the program.

And trying to use "Book with miles plus cash" only ever seems to toss up a full cash price.


My current conclusion: Asia miles are toilet paper.

No wait, that is too mean to toilet paper. At least toilet paper can be used.

I have circa 1,700,000 asia miles (thanks AMEX deval) but I might as well have none.

My next strat is to look at redeeming something on Qatar using them, found on the aa site then the AM call centre??
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Yes i belive you can.
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I'm 'glad' you've posted this. I'm new to Asia miles and am starting to look at Syd to Europe in Sept/Oct 2024. I looked today at Cathay and NOTHING, as you have said. On any date in all Aug and Sept 2024. Looks like I'll stick with Singapore
 
miketoner76 said:
Great sum up of exactly what this is. Despite the fact there is a devaluation, its still the best and cheapest option. Would you happen to know why there is next to zero availability on Cathy right now. I used to use CP to fly Aus-Europe all the time but so struggling to see any flights available atm. Are they at full capacity on every flight?
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I’ve just flownJ with husband to HK and there were 5 empty seats in business with at least 20-30 in Y but checking to change dates for te redemption showed no availability😟
 
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Regional intra asia find they have reasonable availability. Just long haul they probably don't have enough birds back in the sky.

Probably still operating a much smaller fleet and thus there's just not as much supply of seats. I suspect for the finances of the company they're not going to be rushing to bring back capacity as we head into economic downturn.
 
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And thank goodness to! Because it was silly stupid for a while there..

And there is a smattering available in better times of the year...

I just jagged a similar search to above, for 2 in August 2024..

So my faith has been partially restored....

Best wishes all :)
 

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