Card payment sucharges banned in Australia from 2026

Are you happy with the RBA's proposed changes to surcharging and interchange fees?


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It's become normalised over many years with the same process.

Just as it's normalised in UK with very few documents submitted over the years.

Every country is different.
 
How has that become normalised as acceptable in Australia? Most credit card applications in the UK are instantly approved with no documents required.

Because it's what our government requires banks to do for all applications (apparently to "protect" people from getting into debt, unless it's gambling debt...)

Anyway, the Australian credit card legislation forces banks to verify proof of income, and they can only approve applicants who could comfortably repay the full credit limit within 3 years.

Most other countries allow banks to instantly approve people with a good credit rating (ie aren't already in debt) and only assess whether you could make the minimum repayments, not pay back the full debt.
 
I stopped getting AU credit cards because the fees are high and the signup process is ridiculous with so many questions and then all the documentation you need for proof of income like having to upload bank statements and payslips. I’ve never had to do that for any of UK cards I’ve applied for.
I've only ever needed to provide my pay statements e.g. 3 months worth. However, I'm an Australian citizen with a good full time salary so I guess I'm treated differently to someone that may be self employed, works part time, casual or even permanent resident.
 
Australia is a cash cow, always has been, and its residents seem generally happy to go along with it. So why change the formula?
 
I never understood why Australian credit cards have such high fees. I’ve got 5 UK credit cards, none have fees.

In Singapore standard for a miles fee earning card is $180+GST annual fee. For most cards you either pay that and get 10,000 KF miles or ring or go into app and request “annual fee waiver” (automated process) and get no miles. Only one card of mine doesn’t have that, so I just pay the fee - 2c/mile which is ok (and 2 Priority Pass visits as well). There are other rebate focussed cards (no miles) that have lower fees and premium cards that come with all sorts of benefits that are much higher.
 
Some of these new earn rates are paltry. It makes you wonder why they don't just cut the programs altogether and redirect the cost of running the program

If surcharges were paying or subsidising all these points opportunities, better to get rid of them.

Hard agree, most people never realised how the excess fees paid at the cash register were being used by the banks to fund points programs.
 
Some of these new earn rates are paltry. It makes you wonder why they don't just cut the programs altogether and redirect the cost of running the program



Hard agree, most people never realised how the excess fees paid at the cash register were being used by the banks to fund points programs.
Unfortunately I suppose this won’t flow through to cheaper prices to customers… merchants are likely to up their prices to include the new - albeit reduced - surcharges. And in all likelihood the price increase will be more that the surcharge anyway.

But that might be a tiny boost to businesses and their bottom line.
 
Unfortunately I suppose this won’t flow through to cheaper prices to customers… merchants are likely to up their prices to include the new - albeit reduced - surcharges. And in all likelihood the price increase will be more that the surcharge anyway.

But that might be a tiny boost to businesses and their bottom line.
Im okay with that, I just want one price when I pay for something

I spent the first half of the year traveling overseas where I was paying listed prices everywhere, then came home and really noticed all the surcharges - especially painful on hotels

Very happy for these fees to go and have them priced into goods the same way all other CODB prices are. Merchants still need to price appropriately within other market parameters to stay competitive etc

It’s not like they weren’t trying to maximize prices before the surcharge ban
 
And people here were cheering for the changes. The changes are going to be objectively bad for those of us in the know.
It will be a difficult lesson for those who didn't realise that when a money tap stops flowing, changes happen.
 
Unfortunately I suppose this won’t flow through to cheaper prices to customers… merchants are likely to up their prices to include the new - albeit reduced - surcharges. And in all likelihood the price increase will be more that the surcharge anyway.

But that might be a tiny boost to businesses and their bottom line.
Don't forget that merchants are also able to offer discounts for paying cash.
 
And people here were cheering for the changes. The changes are going to be objectively bad for those of us in the know.
All I "know" is that points earning for everyday spend for non-business owners has not been a particularly lucrative source of points for quite a while. It's a new dent in an already dented car. The devaluations in transfers (by the banks) and increased redemption rates and co-payments (by the airlines) have been far more damaging to the non-business spenders.

But it's also terrific for bills like land tax and rates that can't be paid with Amex or paypal (in my case) and have Visa/MC card fees and that often don't earn points anyway. Or my golf club, where I'll now get some points instead of none because the surcharge means I choose a cheaper way to pay. Maybe they'll stop taking credit cards? But those bills aren't going to increase like a coffee shop might so there's something to cheer about. Hopefully Woollies and Coles can come to the party with more frequent offers on pre-paid credit and EFTPOS cards.
 
All I "know" is that points earning for everyday spend for non-business owners has not been a particularly lucrative source of points for quite a while.
Everyday spend you are correct, but this will affect more than just that. The sign on bonuses and perks are also going to be gutted, with annual fees increased. In my current QANTAS membership year I am up over 300k points from credit cards and 15k from woolies. That's without business spend or really too crazy everyday spend.
It's a new dent in an already dented car. The devaluations in transfers (by the banks) and increased redemption rates and co-payments (by the airlines) have been far more damaging to the non-business spenders.
There are lots of hits that the credit card points game has taken, but this is a major one. As far as transfer devaluation that's not been too bad if you go for QANTAS or Virgin Australia, but it has hit other airlines pretty hard.
But it's also terrific for bills like land tax and rates that can't be paid with Amex or paypal (in my case) and have Visa/MC card fees and that often don't earn points anyway.
Couldn't Sniip it?
Or my golf club, where I'll now get some points instead of none because the surcharge means I choose a cheaper way to pay.
Except now you'll be paying more than you would have in your cheaper method as the surcharge will simply be rolled into the price.
Maybe they'll stop taking credit cards? But those bills aren't going to increase like a coffee shop might so there's something to cheer about. Hopefully Woollies and Coles can come to the party with more frequent offers on pre-paid credit and EFTPOS cards.
Overall when you look at where most people spend most of their money, credit card fees were already avoidable. All the big stores don't charge them, all the big online stores don't charge them, a lot of bills can be paid with billpay and paypal. As a percentage of my total spend that can be put on a card (so excluding mortgage) it would have to be <10% where I pay a surcharge. But now to avoid those few dollars a month I'll no doubt be losing out on hundreds of value.
 
Well, without churners… more premium class availability on QF? That’d be sweet.

There may not be that many churners in raw numbers, but there must be at least a significant pool to make it worthwhile for all the blog sites with referrals?

And even 10 less churners = 10 more J class seats for the rest of us.
 
Well, without churners… more premium class availability on QF? That’d be sweet.

There may not be that many churners in raw numbers, but there must be at least a significant pool to make it worthwhile for all the blog sites with referrals?

And even 10 less churners = 10 more J class seats for the rest of us.
churners don't only earn from credit card spend or SUBs, and most accumulate more than they need. If they are true points hunters they have many other options to accumulate points. So i wouldn't be expecting come Oct for there to miraculously be more CR availability.
 

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