Blame It On Rio....well Sao Paulo.

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TonyHancock

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Prologue

Now is the winter of my discontent, with no glorious summer anywhere to be seen.

I’m here again! Another overseas business trip, and one I could well do without. Part of me is really quite envious of the professional soldier, perhaps not the modern soldier, more the pioneering military man of the Victorian era. At least he, I fear there were no she’s in the army then, got to shoot the new people he met and didn’t like. :)

Alas I get to make small talk with the new people I meet and don’t like....in fact it is worse than that, I have to pretend to like them. I’m not good at small talk either, the conversation usually degenerates into feeble chatter about the weather, whilst my mind constantly questions itself about how I ever found myself in this situation and wonders what the latest score in the Test Match is.

My boss, you remember, small guy, good sense of humour, flies Y a lot, decided it would be useful, for whom I have no idea, if I could make a support trip to Brazil. :shock: I had managed to avoid such a thing under his predecessor, it all seemed like such hard work. It was bad enough having to visit the USA, but Brazil? I bet you can’t drink the tap water. I wonder what their chips will be like?

Foolishly I thought I could avoid this by explaining that it was a very difficult trip to make from Australia, and for the sake of my physical and mental health I would only make such a perilous journey in J.....and this would be incredibly expensive. He said “yes, no problems”. :shock: Once again I found myself less than prepared for one of his responses.

Some of you intrepid traveler folks are probably salivating at the prospect of a trip to Brazil, in J, paid for by someone else. Not me! I don’t speak Portuguese, I do enjoy basic comforts like potable tap water and English Language TV, and don’t particularly enjoy traveling in countries where 50,000 people are murdered every year. :shock: To make matters worse, other than the flights everything else is being organised by a third party. It’s worse than having a PA.

I have noticed from the trip reports here that the AFF intrepid traveler gets to visit museums, beaches and natural wonders, I get to go to offices, nuclear reprocessing facilities, automotive manufacturing plants and the industrial wastelands of the resource sector. Please do spare a thought for me on your next holiday, I’ll probably be dodging a coal shovel in China!!

Getting out of this trip was going to be a non starter, so I resigned myself to the prospect of being kidnapped in Sao Paulo with little prospect of my company paying the ransom. I did wonder if that was my boss’s intent.:?: (I also wondered if the insurance that Amex offers with the Platinum Charge card covers kidnapping and ransom?)

How on earth was I even going to get to Brazil. My only previous foray into South America was to Buenos Aires and that was with LAN via Auckland and Santiago. (Buenos Aires was actually not unpleasant, and what larks my colleagues and I had colouring in Las Malvinas pink on all of the maps we saw. :))

The Qantas booking website was not just horrifically expensive it also gave me very limited options. I was in a difficult position, if I put something in that was this expensive I risked my boss looking up flights on the interweb and suggesting something a bit “non oneworldy”. I’d probably finish up flying Scaryteam via some godforsaken hell hole. I could just see myself trying to make a connection to Kenya Airways in Nairobi having flown in Aeroflot. This thought led to a spurt of energy driving me to get my booking sorted out.

I finished up on bestflights.com.au, after lan.com just kept dying on me, and struggled with the routing. LAN would give me more SC’s, but QF to Buenos Aires with a TAM connection to Sao Paulo would give me more miles. (Status bonus) The LAN SC’s would not be QF SC’s and that might come back to bite me later in the year. (I have a distant, some may say far fetched, dream of reaching Platinum One...but that is a whole other story.)

QF17 it was, with a connecting flight from MEL to SYD and then a TAM flight sold as LAN from EZE to GRU. I also knew that QF17 was a four class 747 but the flight was sold as 3 class. If ever there was a flight to grab an F seat on, with J service, it was this one..... apart, of course, from the DFW flights that seem to take a couple of weeks to get from DFW to BNE.........even after chucking a few pax off the plane. (QF18 back to Sydney is 14 hours 55 mins!!) Seat 1A both ways would do very nicely.

The hotel and airport transfers were outside of my control! Please god don’t book me into a “boutique” hotel. (Just what does “boutique” mean when it comes to hotels?) Hopefully I’ll be collected by someone who doesn’t want to drive to an ATM and empty my bank account, or worse try to extort any sort of ransom for me.

This whole TAM/LAN codeshare has made me quite nervous. No points or SC’s for starters! The lounge arrangements don’t look promising either. A little research over at Flyertalk has done little to improve my expectations at EZE on my outward journey. The return journey has a few more “knowns” but I am hardly salivating at the prospect of the Admirals Club having previously visited it in 2007.

I know that TAM has a 5 KG, per bag, rule for carry on within Brazil but I do wonder if this will effect my EXE-GRU flight? I certainly do not want to check in any luggage. A little research over at Flyertalk, again, makes me feel a fraction more confident. The chances of getting my carry on down to 5KG per bag are not good.

When it comes to travel I alternate between laid back and obsessive compulsive. The obsessive compulsive aspect kicks in when I’m not arranging parts of the trip. Will the hotel have a laundry service, or better still washing machines and dryers? I’ll have to prepare for the worst. The prospect of washing my underwear and socks in the bathroom sink does not fill me with joy. (Will I even have a bathroom?)


....in the next, less than gripping, installment Tony gets some unexpected news :shock: and sets about packing to cover all eventualities.


.....and travel is in less than two weeks!:shock:
 
Settling in for another epic TR. Fantastic.

Is there an emoticon for cup of tea and a biscuit?
 
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Wish it were me - I love Brazil - I love the Brazilian people - I speak no Port either - I love the food in Brazil - and I don't consider it any more dangerous than any other country if you exercise a small degree of caution.
 
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get to go to offices, nuclear reprocessing facilities, automotive manufacturing plants and the industrial wastelands of the resource sector. Please do spare a thought for me on your next holiday, I’ll probably be dodging a coal shovel in China!!

What a lucky fellow!:p
 
....in the next, less than gripping, installment Tony gets some unexpected news :shock: and sets about packing to cover all eventualities.

Can't wait! Feels like an addicting TV show with too many intervals :)
 
*settles in with a cheeky G&T*

Looking forward to the next installment!
 
I've done this trip a couple of times in the last 2 years;

ADL-SYD-AKL-SCL-GIG.

LA 800 from AKL-SCL, then LA 756 from SCL to GIG. LA 756 stops at Sao Paulo to allow passengers to dis-embark, then continues on to Rio for the remaing passengers. Maybe have a look at that? LA 751 is the return GIG-SCL flight.

Enjoy Sao Paulo :D
 
... apart, of course, from the DFW flights that seem to take a couple of weeks to get from DFW to BNE...
Nah, that's just the takeoff roll ... :shock:
... Seat 1A both ways would do very nicely.
'twas pretty good on Saturday; 15:55 hours flight thank you; 3½ movies and 9 hours sleep - smooth flight:cool: (shame to be woken for breakfast at 3am BNE time). :-|
 
Loving the pre-TR TR, but I feel no sympathy for you - I would kill to go to Brazil, especially on someone else's dollar!
 
going the full Brazillian is not without pain at the time but the result can be sensational. Stick with it!
 
The Spanner in The Works

The last time someone else organised flights for me was in 1997. I was younger and naive. The flight was from JNB-PLZ, and was, which seemed odd at the time, with BA. I remember it, not for being organised by someone else, but for heading down the runway only to pull up and return to the terminal. :shock: (Apparently the captain discovered a fault that would have meant major problems when trying to land, but yet again that is a whole other story.)

There was nothing particularly wrong with the organisation of that trip, although getting up a 4:00 AM was a little unpleasant, but I just made a decision to take control of my travel. (Amongst my many faults, of which perhaps confident incompetence is the worst, I am a control freak!)

Back to the point. (At last I hear you say!) Having settled, reluctantly, on spending time, supporting our business interests in Sao Paulo, it came as nothing short of a shock, leaning towards pure horror, when my casual request, to my US colleague for airport transfer details, received a response along the lines of “Sergio is handling the internal flights, hotels and transfers”. :shock:........:shock:........:shock:

“Sergio?”

“Internal flights?”

“eh, who, what, where?”

Firstly who is Sergio? Secondly, and more importantly “What internal flights?” This was not explained to me. As far as I knew all I had to do was swan in and talk a bit, at a conference, about our business in the Australian Iron Ore sector and swan out again. (Somewhat oddly I am not one that fears public speaking, in fact I love the sound of my own voice.) No one told me I’d have to fly internally. My mind was filled with visions of chickens and livestock running around the cabin of a 50 year old DC8, not to mention seats stuffed with straw. :shock: Would I need a pith helmet? (I do possess one, a rather fetching white replica of the type used by the British Army in the Zulu Wars :cool:....always handy on sunny days for the protection of the back of the neck, oh yes, and of course for re-enacting the Battle of Rorke’s Drift. “Zulus, Thousands of them!”)

I hadn’t experienced fear like this since I was out in the West Texas town of El Paso (admit it your singing now?) awaiting to board an Aeromexico (or was it a subsidiary of Aeromexico?) flight to Chihuahua....another flight that had been organised by a third party. Come to think of it the same US colleague was involved in that too.

I had a problem. (Two if you count the lack of alcohol in this pre trip so far.) On the one hand I wanted to appear cool and well traveled to my US colleague, on the other my obsessive compulsive gene was screaming “get every last detail on the hotels, flights and transfers”. I like to give the appearance to my colleagues that I am nonchalant when it comes to travel, so portraying anything other than a casual “no problems mate” approach was just not going to wash. (Unlike my socks and jocks in the sink..........apparently.)

“Suck it up princess” I said to myself. (Actually MrsH said that to me.) “These things are sent to try us.”

“Plan for the worst Hancock.” I was already working on the premise that I would have to pack for a complete trip with only handwashing of “smalls” as an option. Now I wondered whether I would be able to even get away with hand luggage internally given the 5KG weight restriction. My packing would need a whole rethink.

What a calming influence the Wirra Wirra Woodhenge 2008 Shiraz proved to be. (...and the 2009 release wasn't bad either.) A third of the way through bottle number two I realised that a reduction in electronic gadgets was the way forward. Out went the Blackberry Playbook, iPhone, mini speaker, hard drives and Minox mini NVD Night Vision Device. (How would I cope? You never know when you need a night vision device.). In came two extra business shirts and an extra pair of trousers. I would fly in jeans...for the first time since 1997. (OMG I'm beginning to have the fashion sense of Jeremy Clarkson.) They are heavier than my chinos and work trousers, and if worst came to worst I could wash them in the sink!!! (Oh man's inhumanity to man, is this what my life has become?)

With a week to go to my trip I find, for the first time in my life, I am completing a “practice pack”. It does give me the opportunity to use my Balanzza Ergonomic Digital Mini Scale. (I have vague recollections of purchasing this on a flight last year from the QF duty free catalogue, unusually it seems quite useful.) Everything fits!.....better than that I have two bags that weigh in just under 7.5KG each. One less thing to worry about.

So what next? Ah yes! The Holiday Inn at MEL. A nice little Park, Stay and Go package for $219. It is a pity I have to go through the points claim for every single stay at this hotel though. Perhaps I'll get the Presidential Suite again. (Three rooms knocked into one with worn carpet!)


............I have no idea what is in the next, somewhat dull episode, I suspect it will be the HI at MEL followed by the attempt to get to SYD earlier for breakfast in the F lounge. I'm too busy worrying about internal flights with chickens!:shock:
 
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I think you will be surprised by what internal flights in Brazil are like

"roaming chicken" etc - this is all in the past. You have more chance to see chickens on a flight from say Adelaide to Mount Gambier

Brazil is very rapidly developing and have decent enough airlines. Most like you will fly TAM and TAM is similar to Virgin (not as good as Qantas, I must agree). I don;t think you'll fly GOL which is OK as well but is very much Jet Star like, just another low cost airline

If the present rate of development in the country stays as it is, give it another 10 to 15 years and this will be Brazilians writing similar things about catching an internal flight in Australia...
 
I think you will be surprised by what internal flights in Brazil are like

"roaming chicken" etc - this is all in the past. You have more chance to see chickens on a flight from say Adelaide to Mount Gambier

Brazil is very rapidly developing and have decent enough airlines. Most like you will fly TAM and TAM is similar to Virgin (not as good as Qantas, I must agree). I don;t think you'll fly GOL which is OK as well but is very much Jet Star like, just another low cost airline

If the present rate of development in the country stays as it is, give it another 10 to 15 years and this will be Brazilians writing similar things about catching an internal flight in Australia...

Now come on I have flown in and out of Mt.Gambier-not a chicken to be seen.
But brings back memories of PNG in 1969 when the carryon pig escaped from his master's clutches.
 
Come on - what chickens or pigs are you talking about???

It's not 1969 and we are talking Brazil that builds Embraer jets that half of the world flies (including Virgin Australia - not for long though). Comments about chickens on the plane in Brazil are bordering arrogance
 
... Comments about chickens on the plane in Brazil are bordering arrogance
It's done 'tounge-in-cheek' - i.e. for Humour.

I think the OP has more of an issue with having to put the local arrangements in the hands of someone else.
 
Likewise - my comment about chickens between Adelaide and Mt.Gambier was done "tongue-in-cheek" - that is humour

I would kill to be sent to Brazil, I went there in 2008 for a short (unfortunately) holiday and was blown away by the country's beauty and hospitality of it's people....yes, there are favelas with roaming chicken in Rio but if you have seen some parts of Bourke in NSW....(that is being said tongue-in-cheek as well);)

Why worry about someone else taking care of your minor travel arrangements? It is Brazil, relax and enjoy your caipirinhas
 
Come on - what chickens or pigs are you talking about???

It's not 1969 and we are talking Brazil that builds Embraer jets that half of the world flies (including Virgin Australia - not for long though). Comments about chickens on the plane in Brazil are bordering arrogance

I'm sorry to have offended you but my laptop has decided that 50% of the time I use a smiley it will freeze so I now use them infrequently.
But then again you did bring up Mt.Gambier!
 
It's just I got friends who moved from Adelaide to Mt.Gambier for work and we went to see them there in May and some caracters on the little REX plane were...little redneck, im afraid. :shock:Mt.Gambier is ok I guess but not exactly Rio...
 
It's done 'tounge-in-cheek' - i.e. for Humour.

I think the OP has more of an issue with having to put the local arrangements in the hands of someone else.

Thanks serfty. :) It is tongue in cheek as to a certain extent is having a third party arrange my travel. I do have a preference to plan my own travel, but that is the control freak in me. I'm not overly keen on not knowing how I'm getting from an airport to my hotel whether it be Sao Paulo, Shanghai, London or Sydney. I also like to know where I'm staying too!

Comments about chickens on the plane in Brazil are bordering arrogance

sergeyvzen, I am sorry if I have caused offence. :( I attempt, with limited success to write my, so called, trip reports with a humourous slant. They are written from the viewpoint of a much more, some may say only slightly more, exaggerated version of myself who is self delusional, pompous, culturally unaware and incompetent. I use exaggeration in an effort to gain comic effect. (I know that it does not take two weeks for QF8 to get from DFW to BNE, and in the same way I know that both TAM and GOL have modern aircraft fleets.)

There really is no intent to cause offence, but I do understand that my writing style might have that effect.
 
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