BKK Suvarnabhumi Airport Update

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  1. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    An interesting article for anyone travelling to, or transiting in, BKK from 28th September!

     

  2. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    Looks like the airport has listened to some of the criticism given about the new airport and the way it was set to open.

    Can only help to try and make things go smoother.

    Anyone with way more local knowledge of BKK than me make any correlation of these two comments: "about five kilometres more than the distance to Don Muang." and "taxi fares are likely to double to Suvarnabhumi from around 150 baht to 300 baht for a single trip"

    Are there additional toll roads or some other delay creating issue along the route?

    I'm looking forward to heading over to BKK again early-mid next year. Should be nice to see what they've done with the airport.
     
  3. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

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    I am thankful I chose to route through SIN instead of BKK at the time of the changeover (if it isnt delayed yet again). If it happens on time then I'll get to see the new airport in October.

    I don't think the lounge used by QF will be a QP any more so I wont be able to sample that one in my October trip, but will feedback on the *A one if no one else has by then.
     
  4. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    Thanks John. Interesting information.

    Here is a related story from the Bangkok Post : Business news

     
  5. simongr

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    Kiwi - given how much you travel across *A and 1world - why wouldnt you be able to access the lounge (assuming its say a BA lounge) if you were flying 1world? I thought if you had status with 1world, were flying 1world (internationally) you could access any 1world lounge in the airport you were flying through?
     
  6. NM

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    Because he is flying *A on that trip through BKK.

    If it was a real Qantas Club lounge, then he could visit based on QF Platinum status, which permits access to Qantas Club lounges at any time regardless of travel. But a partner lounge does not permit such access.
     
  7. Kiwi Flyer

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    Yup. Currently in BKK (int terminals) I have 3 lounges I can access at any time regardless of who I fly. With the new airport I will have 0 - access will only be based on who I fly.
     
  8. simongr

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    Interesting - I am flying to BKK in October (27th) for a week returning in Nov (4th) with BA WT+ (currently Qantas Gold and on the return trip should AA Plat) but I tihnk with changes to terminals then I will have to us BA lounge in this case?

    Mind you I should really check what lounges will be at new airport first myself instead of getting you guys to advise all the time :)
     
  9. Kiwi Flyer

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    My understanding is at the new airport there wont be a BA lounge (or QF or SQ or whatever). Rather there will be 2 huge lounges - one for TG and all their partners (ie *A), and one for everyone else. Each lounge will have a first section and a business section.
     
  10. simongr

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    Hmm - that doesnt sound great for statused people flying economy through BKK... Hmm - that would really change my routing back to the UK for a personal visit - as I would fly economy personally.

    Are there many other airports with that sort of arrangements? Mostly it wont affect me as international travel is business class (and on business) - the trip to Thailand is a bit of a one-off especially wth the WT+ fare class :)
     
  11. Kiwi Flyer

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    Why are you concerned? There will still be a designated OW lounge so OW elites will have their usual access based on the rules. Similarly for Sky Team and for airlines not in alliance. The only difference is where airlines allow additional (non-alliance) access to their own top elites.

    There are lots and lots of airports with similar arrangements (either for all airlines or a subset).
     
  12. JohnK

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    The lounge that QF is using will be an "interim lounge".

    When I was there in July there was a sign in QP that there will be an new QF lounge opening at the new airport and I posted some details on FT. I assume that this is still going ahead.

     
  13. Kiwi Flyer

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    I am only going off information I have been given. That there will only be 2 lounges at the new airport. That there will be no airline lounges.
     
  14. mileagemax

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    Apparently there was a sign at the exisiting Qantas Club in Don Muang, that a new Qantas Club was being built at the new airport, and due to open in December.

    I am not sure of the arrangement for the time between when the new airport opens and December though.

    I hope there is a Qantas Club, because if it is just a OW Lounge, I assume Jetstar passengers won't get access :(
     
  15. markis10

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    The airport currently has 8 lounges of which one will be joint use, much like Hong Kong I expect the lounges will follow later after the airport opens. In the interim SQ are using the Thai lounge, not sure what One World will be doing in the interim.
     
  16. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    TIT (This is Thailand). There is no correlation between the two. Trip time will be roughly the same and you will still have a choice between using a toll road or not.

    There is a rumour doing the rounds that the limousine and taxi services operating from the new airport will be a monopoly therefore an expectation that the fares are likely to increase. The fare to Ploenchit should still be the same but the "surcharge" for hiring a taxi from the airport is likely to increase, currently 50 baht from the old airport.

    The majority of private limousine services have assured customers that they will not be charging extra for pickups/dropoffs to the new airport.

    Another possible consideration which may effect taxi fares, not just from new airport, is the recent change to the law regarding the maximum age of taxis reduced from 9 years to 7 years.

    In saying all of this there is nothing stopping you from using the free shuttle to go to the bus stop outside the airport and picking up a taxi from there. Due to the new strict laws of which taxi company can pickup a fare inside the new airport you will find that there will be a lot of taxis returning empty and they will be more than happy to pickup a fare.

    I have been past the site several times now and it looks spectacular. Hard to believe that just a few years ago it was swampland. I will be there in December/January and looking forward to exploring inside the new airport.
     
  17. Gazza

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    From the Qantas Sept 2006 E-News

    Suvarnabhumi Airport is the new Bangkok International and
    Domestic Airport, which is due to open on 28 September 2006.
    The switch over from the current Don Muang airport to the new
    airport will be overnight. The new airport is 30km east of
    Bangkok.
    Temporary Lounge Access at New Bangkok International Airport
    The Qantas/British Airways First and Business lounges at the
    new Bangkok airport have not yet been completed.
    Accordingly, from September 28 until late December 2006,
    Qantas will be using temporary lounge facilities for our
    First and Business Class customers in Bangkok. Due to space
    limitations, access to these facilities will be restricted to
    customers travelling in First and Business Class on the day
    of travel. Unfortunately access will not be possible for
    other customers travelling in Economy that would normally be
    entitled to use the lounges (e.g Platinum Frequent Flyers,
    Gold Frequent Flyers and Qantas Club members) and guest
    access will not be available during this time. We apologise
    for this inconvenience, and look forward to welcoming all
    eligible customers to our new Lounge opening in late December
    2006.
    When open, the new luxuriously furnished First and Business
    lounges will be 40% larger than the current lounges offering
    improved business facilities, a variety of seating and
    entertainment zones, improved shower facilities and a new
    style menu offering complimentary beverages and refreshments.

    This has the potential to be a major pain in the John Howard.

    Gazza
     
  18. simongr

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    Hmm - I am off to BKK at end of Oct - flying BA WT+ - wonder if that will still get lounge access...
     
  19. Mal

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    Nope out of luck as well:
    https://ukprepin.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ukprepin.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2377
    "Are there lounge facilities at Suvarnabhumi Airport?

    We are currently designing new FIRST and Club World lounge facilities at Suvarnabhumi Airport, which are scheduled to open late December 2006. From 28 September 2006 until the new lounge is open, Qantas and British Airways will be using temporary lounge facilities.

    Due to space limitations, access to these facilities will be restricted to customers travelling in FIRST and Club World on the day of travel. At this time, lounge access will not be possible for Executive Club Gold or Silver members, or oneworld Sapphire members travelling in World Traveller or World Traveller Plus."


    Looks like they missed "Emerald" in their writeup, but if BA Gold'ers are left out in the terminal, so will be every other OW Emerald pax not in J or F.
     
  20. simongr

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    Well that just totally sucks. This Thailand trip is getting suckier and suckier for me. One of things we were looking forward to was taking mrs sim to the lounges.

    Its not like its just for a week or two either - its three months. I wonder how many WP/1world Emerald (do we have an abbreviation for them on this site?)/SG/1world Sapphire travel through BKK in economy. I cant imagine (showing my ignorance here) that it is a major business destination for a lot of the QF fliers? As such is it more likely that anyone flying through who is WP/SG is travelling for fun? Maybe its just me who doesnt go to Thailand for business ;)
     
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