Beware the business bogan

[ozbeachbabe]

Years ago, I recall that there was a locking latch on the exit row seats that the FAs would release (or have to be reminded to release) after the seat belt sign went off. Is that no longer the case or am I thinking way back to the Ansett A320s? Maybe I need to venture back of row 5 to see what's going on these days .

It may have happened on AN but I remember that on QF also but not sure if it's on the current fleet ie 734's & 738's or was just on the 733's that are now in NZ flying for Jetconnect.

 

[medhead]

I'm sure there must be a in there right?

No more a :-| I can sleep sitting up without any problems. I've even slept in the back of a moving A-vehicle. If one can't sleep then one can't be that tired. Simple. :-|

Agree what you say re the laptop but what are you going to do if someone does recline? Participate in the childish antics that other in here have suggested? Sorry but if the seat can be reclined then as much as I may hate it (ie trying to work on a laptop is a great example) they're entitled to do it and I have to live with it.

I've already written what I try to do, not childish, not disrupting. I simple hold the seat with my hand at an amount of recline that is a happy medium allowing me to not be contorted if using a laptop, and allowing the maximum recline that allows this. I have also been known, when not using the computer, to rest my head on the back of the seat in front to sleep, so leaning forward, mainly when the middle seat person has their elbows jammed into my ribs.

As for the sleeping upright bit, there's nothing worse than trying to sleep bolt upright.

I don't find that, being so tired that you can sleep in the back of a moving A-vehicle is much worse.

 

[11sjw]

I've already written what I try to do, not childish, not disrupting. I simple hold the seat with my hand at an amount of recline that is a happy medium allowing me to not be contorted if using a laptop, and allowing the maximum recline that allows this. I have also been known, when not using the computer, to rest my head on the back of the seat in front to sleep, so leaning forward, mainly when the middle seat person has their elbows jammed into my ribs.

Wasn't suggesting your specific antics were the childish ones. There's a whole other discussion on armrest etiquette!!

 

[AVC]

Years ago, I recall that there was a locking latch on the exit row seats that the FAs would release (or have to be reminded to release) after the seat belt sign went off. Is that no longer the case or am I thinking way back to the Ansett A320s? Maybe I need to venture back of row 5 to see what's going on these days .

Are you referring to arming and disarming the doors? That's so the chutes will deploy automatically when the doors is opened. Not something you want to happen at the aerobridge!

Funny story - a friend of mine who used to be (maybe he still is) a QF Engineer, was is the cabin of a 737.
His partner goes to open a door for some air. Doesn't check the arming.
BOOM! chute deploys, he reflexively pulls the door closed in some attempt to prevent the chute from fully deploying.
Instead, this caused the chute to deploy INSIDE the cabin, and pushed him up against the other side of the cabin.
Fortunately, he was carrying tools, so he had to stab the chute to death.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Are you referring to arming and disarming the doors? That's so the chutes will deploy automatically when the doors is opened. Not something you want to happen at the aerobridge!

Not they are two completely different things. The switch that locked exit row seats upright was on thie side of the exit row aisle seat itself. You used to see F/A's walk around the cabin after takeoff leaning down & flicking the switch.

 

[mannej]

Not they are two completely different things. The switch that locked exit row seats upright was on thie side of the exit row aisle seat itself. You used to see F/A's walk around the cabin after takeoff leaning down & flicking the switch.

It has been a while since I have been on a 738, but I can remember being in row 12 and being locked in for take off and land. I would not sit in Row 12 again on a 738.

 

[Ewing]

Or for those who have to choice other that to travel in whY choose the exit rows. On a 738 row 13 is the first exit row & although you won't be able to recline, neither will row 12 in front of you.

If you want two bites of the cherry, select row 14 as row 13 cannot recline in front of you but you can still recline your seat.

On the new 738s (with AVOD) - or at least the ones I've been on where I haven't been in rows 1 or 4 - rows 13 and 14 not only are unable to recline, but they don't even have a recline button.

I don't as a matter of course recline on domestic "golden triangle" flights, but for a 3+ hour trans-tasman flight I do enjoy a very slight recline.

 

[AVC]

Not they are two completely different things. The switch that locked exit row seats upright was on thie side of the exit row aisle seat itself. You used to see F/A's walk around the cabin after takeoff leaning down & flicking the switch.

Ah, the SEATS. I didn't read the post correctly. Yeah, I guess it would be a real bugger to try and get out the exit with a seat reclined into the access path.

 

[vitagen]

I always choose row 14 on the 738s for the exact reason! Except I don't recline on short haul flights and haven't done in my past 13 rtn flights to ZNE.

 

[richie9x]

Years ago, I recall that there was a locking latch on the exit row seats that the FAs would release (or have to be reminded to release) after the seat belt sign went off. Is that no longer the case or am I thinking way back to the Ansett A320s? Maybe I need to venture back of row 5 to see what's going on these days .

I don't sit in the exit rows much anymore, but Qantas has that on their 737s I am certain the 737-800s have it and sure that the 400s have it as well. Just after the seat belt light goes off a FA will come forward and release the recline locks. The usually do in one swift movement by crouching down a bit doing both sides with their arms out stretched. It does look a bit unusual and sometimes passengers will ask what they are doing. If you look down at the seat you can see the levers. They will lock them again when preparing for landing.

I guess it is possible that sometimes the FAs will forget to release the locks.

On Virgin I think the 737-700s have the recline permanently disabled on the seats in front of the exit row. Not sure about their 737-800s.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

On the new 738s (with AVOD) - or at least the ones I've been on where I haven't been in rows 1 or 4 - rows 13 and 14 not only are unable to recline, but they don't even have a recline button.

I don't as a matter of course recline on domestic "golden triangle" flights, but for a 3+ hour trans-tasman flight I do enjoy a very slight recline.

Must be taking a leaf out the book from their country cousins at JQ. Might be a tad cheaper to not have the recline facility on those seats.

 

[JohnK]

Read MarkD's post, very apt.

I did and it does not make much sense to me. What I do not understand is why you would want to try and get the first seat in economy and then recline away. But then again I do understand.

Yes, I do remember you I think, John. I do recall that you seemed in a rush to get off the plane
Were you on the airtrain earlier as well? I think I may have sat near you then too.

Small world!

So you are now one of the most unfortunate to have come into contact with me! :shock: I wanted to get off the aircraft as quickly as possible as I did not want to spend another minute behind that "person" in 4B. I am sure she is someone's girlfriend or mother but does nothing for my sanity.

This is no way a personal attack on that "person" but I do feel passionately about some things. Another is those that rush to the security line to get in front and then take an eternity to get through holidng you up.

Overall people have become so selfish that it is beyond belief. Another case in point today unrelated to flying but it was on my way to the airport. Driving along Kingsgrove Road heading to M5 on ramp when someone reverses out of their driveway into Kingsgrove Road and makes me stop for what seemed like an eternity. No more than 50 metres later they turn into the Shell.

There is a perfect way to avoid selfishness and that means reversing your car into your driveway the night before not heading straight in. Can't reverse because there are too many cars in the afternoon? Then come out at night and reverse into your driveway and when you want to leave you do not need to waste someone else's time. But that solution is too sensible....

 

[RBC]

I have no interest in reclining on a flight under 3 hours when there is someone behind me.
Yes people get what they pay for in Y, but when everyone is in the same kettle of fish, the least we can all do is make it as pleasant for each other as possible and it comes down to simple consideration.
I manage to go to my office and sit at my desk or in a meeting without feeling the need to kick back and put my swivel chair into full recline mode, so why would I do it on flight.

 

[11sjw]

There is a perfect way to avoid selfishness and that means reversing your car into your driveway the night before not heading straight in. Can't reverse because there are too many cars in the afternoon? Then come out at night and reverse into your driveway and when you want to leave you do not need to waste someone else's time. But that solution is too sensible....

Or perhaps you might need to know the person's circumstances before casting judgement on them. Perhaps they work two jobs totalling 16 hours a day or have 4 kids and an elderly dependant and have no 'free' time between arriving home and crashing for a few hours. Probably best to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure that eternity was all of 2 minutes.

 

[Daver6]

Perhaps those who don't want the seat in front of them to recline should purchase two seats....the one in front too?

 

[Archphoto]

Well, I guess after working 6 weeks straight, (on average 19hrs a day) and then having to fly home long-haul with a short haul connection SYD-ADL (all in whY with no chance to fly J), I'm one of those morons. . . . . . .

 

[medhead]

Well you accept those working hours and only getting flown in Y........


Sent from the Throne

 

[Archphoto]

Some of us don't have the luxury of being able to fly J (I wish I did!) and the hours I work - that's my job, nothing I can do to change it - but being called a *moron* because I recline my seat on a short hope when totally exhausted, rather childish IMO. . . . .

I'm expected to be understanding of everyone else' needs, yet mine are totally unimportant and should be ignored? Guess my interpretation of the word "tolerance" is very different to that of others on this forum. . . . . .

 

[Moody]

Some of us don't have the luxury of being able to fly J (I wish I did!) and the hours I work - that's my job, nothing I can do to change it - but being called a *moron* because I recline my seat on a short hope when totally exhausted, rather childish IMO. . . . .

I'm expected to be understanding of everyone else' needs, yet mine are totally unimportant and should be ignored? Guess my interpretation of the word "tolerance" is very different to that of others on this forum. . . . . .

As an aside you DO have to have thick skin on this forum, but back to the off-topic topic of recliners. I don't think anyone has an issue with an exhausted Y pax trying to get a few hours of precious sleep - it is the habitual recliners who just do it because they can that annoy me and others. Psychologists would call this an example of overcompensating or misguided entitlement, I just think it is just the result of poor upbringing.

 

[MarkD]

....... Reclines seat smoothly....... Ahhhhh that's good