Bag fire in hold of FJ737 while on Tarmac at MEL

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Was there no process between baggage acceptance and placement in the hold which had the potential to prevent this from occurring?
 

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Was there no process between baggage acceptance and placement in the hold which had the potential to prevent this from occurring?

It's a common and incorrect perception that all bags are screened over the world, although Melbourne do claim they screen all:

Melbourne Airport was the first airport in Australia to implement a fully-automated baggage security system that screens 100 per cent of international outbound checked luggage. - See more at: http://melbourneairport.com.au/flig...ecurity-information.html#sthash.25KNQx8A.dpuf

Australia does require 100% screening in theory.
 

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I'd be interested to know what kind of DG's were in the bag as the article doesn't say.

The culprit probably would've said something along the lines of "well nobody asked me at checkin if I had (insert applicable DG) in my bag".
 

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I'd be interested to know what kind of DG's were in the bag as the article doesn't say.

The culprit probably would've said something along the lines of "well nobody asked me at checkin if I had (insert applicable DG) in my bag".
The DG's were small Lithium batteries for camera equipment.
 
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It's a shame. It would be a good opportunity to educate.

Not exactly. If it was Qantas, the media would claim that they were only seconds away from disaster, with the whole plane going to blow up and then destroying half of the airport along with it while potentially killing the 13,582 people who are in the vicinity. After which, overseas maintenance gets blamed. Never mind what the actual truth is, right?
 

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I didn't mean shame it wasn't Qantas, I meant shame it didn't make the media and the media use it as an opportunity to warn of the dangers of ignoring the list of dangerous goods =)
 

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Not exactly. If it was Qantas, the media would claim that they were only seconds away from disaster, with the whole plane going to blow up and then destroying half of the airport along with it while potentially killing the 13,582 people who are in the vicinity. After which, overseas maintenance gets blamed. Never mind what the actual truth is, right?

That report filed direct from ROK.
 

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Never knew spare batteries had to be in your carry on according to QF..

[h=3]All Spare Batteries for Consumer Electronic Devices[/h] All spare batteries for consumer electronic devices must be carried in carry-on baggage only. They must be individually protected to prevent short circuit using one of the following:

  • In original retail packaging;
  • Taping over exposed terminals;
  • Placing each battery in a separate plastic bag or protective pouch.
 

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They are a long known risk in numbers or bumped and damaged in bags.

In Asia, China especially they X-ray all checked bags at check in just for Lithium batteries and you don't get handed your boarding pass until your bags have passed X-ray or if they fail are searched and all batteries removed, yep even the ones in your razor.

They have brought down a number of cargo aircraft over the past few years, UPS6 is just one of many.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_6

MH370 also was carrying some as cargo in the hold...
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/malaysia-plane-lithium-ion-batteries-2014-3
 

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In Asia, China especially they X-ray all checked bags at check in just for Lithium batteries and you don't get handed your boarding pass until your bags have passed X-ray

I did find it strange that in TPE the check in lady told us to watch our bags go down the belt and through an x-ray maching before heading off through immigration. She did give us our BP's though before the bags went through, in theory we could have just walked off? HWMBA was quite impatient and wanted to get into the lounge, not that its amazing in TPE... I think he was just hungry.
 

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I did find it strange that in TPE the check in lady told us to watch our bags go down the belt and through an x-ray maching before heading off through immigration. She did give us our BP's though before the bags went through, in theory we could have just walked off? HWMBA was quite impatient and wanted to get into the lounge, not that its amazing in TPE... I think he was just hungry.

She shouldn't have given you your boarding passes, but understand why she did as it does create a slow down in the check in area when they hold them.

And your bags, if they are picked up as having batteries in them, are taken off the belt in a room to the end of the check out que that you will be requested to go down and sort out the issue, or in smaller airports simply sit on the other side of the xray machine awaiting a security person to come along to check them - and call you behind the check in counters to assist the security person check through your checked bag.

If your bags are flagged as having any - they never go far from the check in area until signed off. You do have to be present when they open your bag and will not do so until you are. So your bags wouldn't have made your flight.

In China, security staff are more worried about batteries & lighters going on aircraft than liquids.
 
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She shouldn't have given you your boarding passes, but understand why she did as it does create a slow down in the check in area when they hold them.

It was quite a strange setup, one that I have never seen before. The bags were weighed on scales, and then had to be lifted back behind the counter onto a conveyor, not very high tech! Took them ages just to start the belt to send them down. Hence the impatient other half.

There was one other girl behind us at the first check in desk, she had a bag to drop but walked off past us as we stood there watching. She didnt seem worried!
 
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