Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Gremlin]

12 cases in NSW. Of which, 4 are quarantined. The remaining 8 are all linked to existing clusters. None of the dreaded 'Community Transmission - Source Unknown' or 'Under Investigation' today

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW 12 cases today

1 overseas arrival quarantine
3 from Victoria
1 Thai Rock Wetherill Park
2 Apollo
5 Mounties

......will update when I get figures for total community transmission

 

[Pushka]

NSW 12 cases today

1 overseas arrival quarantine
3 from Victoria
1 Thai Rock Wetherill Park
2 Apollo
5 Mounties

......will update when I get figures for total community transmission

That is excellent news.

Unfortunately it seems SA Health regards community spread as any infection acquired in SA even when they know where the infection came from.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Dan also announced new penalties.

FOR THOSE MEANT TO BE IN SELF-ISOLATION

More than 3000 doorknocks. More than 800 not at home (some may be legit such as exercise).

From now, no exercise if isolating at home away from the home. Dan indicated that the only reason now for some to not be at home if in isolation is if needing emergency medical care.

More than 500 additional ADF and 300 extra health staff for doorknocking (to check and to also answer questions and provide support).

Doorknocking to be increased per household checked. ie Multiple random visits.


Penalty. New on the spot fine is $4957 (for those that breach isolation order). Repeat breaches, going to work will be a court matter with fines upto $20,000

Post automatically merged: Aug 4, 2020

Dan confirmed 439 new cases for Vic today.

11 deaths . All in aged care.

Over one thousand cases in aged care. He did not say the resident split.
( Note in yesterday's DHHS report: There are 1089 active cases relating to aged care facilities )

 

[Gremlin]

Unfortunately it seems SA Health regards community spread as any infection acquired in SA even when they know where the infection came from.

From what I've read, that appears to be consistent with how most international jurisdictions define 'community spread' or 'community transmission'. Eg, when countries talk about opening borders to those with little to no community transmission, they are still considering cases where successful contact tracing is occurring as community transmission.

I get that there is a distinction between knowing where a chain has emerged from and cases where there is no known link, but both pose a danger to the community. One is simply many multiples more of a risk than the other.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From what I've read, that appears to be consistent with how most international jurisdictions define 'community spread' or 'community transmission'. Eg, when countries talk about opening borders to those with little to no community transmission, they are still considering cases where successful contact tracing is occurring as community transmission.

I get that there is a distinction between knowing where a chain has emerged from and cases where there is no known link, but both pose a danger to the community. One is simply many multiples more of a risk than the other.

Agree. You will see that with community spread that there is the subset of:
Source Local - Unknown Contact

In recent days the term of "Mystery Cases" seems to have also crept in for these Unknown Local Community Transmission Cases.

 

[Lynda2475]

From now, no exercise if isolating at home away from the home

wow cant believe this was ever allowed, I had understood if you were on ISO the only reason you could leave the home was to go to the hospital. So for last 5 months, heaps of people in mandatory isolation (positive cases and close contacts of of positive cases) have been going out into the community to do exercise - unbelievable. For 2 weeks, you can just exercise inside your house or in backyard.

 

[Pushka]

wow cant believe this was ever allowed, I had understood if you were on ISO the only reason you could leave the home was to go to the hospital. So for last 5 months, heaps of people in mandatory isolation (positive cases and close contacts of of positive cases) have been going out into the community to do exercise - unbelievable. For 2 weeks, you can just exercise inside your house or in backyard.

I’m with you! Surely that’s wrong.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

That is excellent news.

Unfortunately it seems SA Health regards community spread as any infection acquired in SA even when they know where the infection came from.

From what I've read, that appears to be consistent with how most international jurisdictions define 'community spread' or 'community transmission'. Eg, when countries talk about opening borders to those with little to no community transmission, they are still considering cases where successful contact tracing is occurring as community transmission.

I get that there is a distinction between knowing where a chain has emerged from and cases where there is no known link, but both pose a danger to the community. One is simply many multiples more of a risk than the other.

I only realized the distinction about a week ago lol

 

[jase05]

‘’Pivotal day’’ for SA. Two new cases of #COVID19 - both women in their 20s.

One is linked to the cluster. She visited a restaurant, shop and gym while infectious.

The other could be a case of community transmission. Still under investigation.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

wow cant believe this was ever allowed, I had understood if you were on ISO the only reason you could leave the home was to go to the hospital. So for last 5 months, heaps of people in mandatory isolation (positive cases and close contacts of of positive cases) have been going out into the community to do exercise - unbelievable. For 2 weeks, you can just exercise inside your house or in backyard.

Under the first lockdown my family literally didn’t leave except for one of us to buy groceries.....1 per week.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I’m with you! Surely that’s wrong.

In Melbourne they apparently had some law protecting human right to minimal exercise/fresh air or something like that.....read an article. If I understand correctly, it was inadvertently referred to by Vic CHO in the past week

 

[dajop]

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wow cant believe this was ever allowed, ...... have been going out into the community to do exercise - unbelievable. For 2 weeks, you can just exercise inside your house or in backyard.

I never understood the logic. Ever. It's unbelievable. And also double standards applied for those who arrived from overseas who might have the virus, and those in Australia who do have the virus, having laxer rules.

When we came into Australia (just before compulsory hotel quarantine) we were given a notice that forbid us from leaving the property - even for exercise, yet for all these months, people who have been positive have been allowed to leave their homes for "exercise". The logic astounds me.

Still think if Vic get their cases back down to <1000 then they should look at physically quarantining positive cases with their families if there is no other carer available. It would save a whole heap of angst and police resources.

 

[jakeseven7]

‘’Pivotal day’’ for SA. Two new cases of #COVID19 - both women in their 20s.

One is linked to the cluster. She visited a restaurant, shop and gym while infectious.

The other could be a case of community transmission. Still under investigation.

I suspect SA will act far more proactively (and has already) than sleepy NSW....

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

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I never understood the logic. Ever. It's unbelievable. And also double standards applied for those who arrived from overseas who might have the virus, and those in Australia who do have the virus, having laxer rules.

When we came into Australia (just before compulsory hotel quarantine) we were given a notice that forbid us from leaving the property - even for exercise, yet for all these months, people who have been positive have been allowed to leave their homes for "exercise". The logic astounds me.

Still think if Vic get their cases back down to <1000 then they should look at physically quarantining positive cases with their families if there is no other carer available. It would save a whole heap of angst and police resources.

I was hoping the Vic premier would say if you positive and you are not at home, we will break down your door to look for you and then search and find you then put you in jail pending court action.

Utterly disappointed in him/associate Police rep

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I suspect SA will act far more proactively (and has already) than sleepy NSW....

Sleepy NSW and nanny Qld have lower numbers today.

Still waiting for fallout from recent religious gathering exemption.

But zero community still in (far) sight.

 

[Pushka]

In Melbourne they apparently had some law protecting human right to minimal exercise/fresh air or something like that.....read an article. If I understand correctly, it was inadvertently referred to by Vic CHO in the past week

Well there you go! What could possibly go wrong. No such thing in SA. And I betting most of Australia didn’t know this happening either.

 

[jakeseven7]

That is excellent news.

Unfortunately it seems SA Health regards community spread as any infection acquired in SA even when they know where the infection came from.

I think excellent is a really strong word to be using...

"It is important to reiterate that, while most cases in the past week have been associated with local clusters and close contact with known cases, some have not been linked to known cases," Dr Chant said.

 

[Pushka]

I think excellent is a really strong word to be using...

"It is important to reiterate that, while most cases in the past week have been associated with local clusters and close contact with known cases, some have not been linked to known cases," Dr Chant said.

It’s a relative usage of the word. And like some here I’ll take any positive news when I see it.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Up to 18 total community transmission (ie 15 unknown source + 3 under investigation) since before Crossroads Hotel emerged. Unfortunately, there is no ageing information, which is becoming important since Crossroad is now about 3 weeks ago.

Confirmed cases to date:

By likely source of infection	Count
Overseas	2,035​
Interstate acquired	83​
Locally acquired – contact of a confirmed case and/or in a known cluster	1,123​
Locally acquired – contact not identified	376​
Under investigation	3​
Total	3,620​

Counts reported for a particular day may vary over time with ongoing enhanced surveillance activities.