Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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We are on the VA 0730 ADL-LST flight tomorrow for 16 days in Tasmania. About 3/4 of our trip is in the “good” zone but our first 3 nights were down at Freycinet Lodge which is deemed a “bad zone” so had the hotel cancel on us.
Bizarrely enough Freycinet is further away from ground zero than Launceston but Launceston stays open 🤪
 

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MissQS went from Wagga to Warrnambool for essential work with permit. No police seen anywhere along the route there, in Warrnambool, nor on way back.
There were some semi permanent ones until a week ago, but they were removed when the automated machine guns were installed. There were many crossings that were not monitored regularly, so it was a pretty porous border, which served little purpose other than annoying the locals.

It’s now open, but with a requirement for two PCR tests. Sort of amusing given that there’s much more covid in Vic than NSW now. NSW hasn’t moved at all, so you can come from overseas to NSW, but not from Victoria. I’m sure the requirement for any testing will keep those pesky Welshmen out.
 
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There has been 1 new case in Hobart today.First community transmission in Tasmania since May 2020.

Tasmania is not doing badly in the vaccination stakes but this should give it a nice kick along.Fortunately mobile vax clinics to start visiting smaller and remote areas from today.
Crikey. I have a busy day at work and don't check the news and the country goes to rack and ruin! 🤣
 

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My brother in northern Tasmania sent me a text at midday saying that Hobart was in lockdown for three days. No idea why he thought I should know, being in Perth! Plus why he was so excited to tell the mainland when he works in Devonport? But I replied that yes, I already knew. I’m fact I knew a good two hours prior because of AFF!
 

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We are on the VA 0730 ADL-LST flight tomorrow for 16 days in Tasmania. About 3/4 of our trip is in the “good” zone but our first 3 nights were down at Freycinet Lodge which is deemed a “bad zone” so had the hotel cancel on us.
Bizarrely enough Freycinet is further away from ground zero than Launceston but Launceston stays open 🤪

Ridiculous. I would just go do the wineglass bay walk yourself if I was you, it’s spectacular. You can do it on a day trip :)
 

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Ridiculous. I would just go do the wineglass bay walk yourself if I was you, it’s spectacular. You can do it on a day trip :)
We have done that before and agree it’s spectacular. We have switched our nights in Freycinet around with our nights in Launceston and all hotels bent over backwards to assist. Just means a slight rejig to our driving and itinerary but staying at all accomodation we had planned
 

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NSW Health

NSW COVID-19 update – Saturday 16 October 2021

In the 24-hour reporting period to 8pm last night:
- 91.7% of people aged 16+ have had one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine
- 78.8% of people aged 16+ have had two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine
- 66,311 tests
- 319 new locally acquired cases
- 2 new overseas acquired cases
- 652 people in hospital
- 138 people in ICU
- 2 deaths
 

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NSW now has fewer covid positives in hospital, fewer in ICU and fewer ventilated than Vic. Within the next week Vic should also overtake NSW on total case numbers (already there when adjusted for population).

All the bs about lockdown light and going harder earlier has not produced better outcomes. Vaccination is what counts.
 

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NSW now has fewer covid positives in hospital, fewer in ICU and fewer ventilated than Vic. Within the next week Vic should also overtake NSW on total case numbers (already there when adjusted for population).
Yes
..pls consider we in Vic are acutely aware of this.. I am pleased for what is happening in NSW and hope we follow suit..
 

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I also think Vic has done worse than NSW with the Delta outbreak despite locking down very early as there is less compliance with the lockdown rules due to lockdown fatigue. Also NSW targeted the high risk LGAs with expedited vaccinations.
 

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NSW now has fewer covid positives in hospital, fewer in ICU and fewer ventilated than Vic. Within the next week Vic should also overtake NSW on total case numbers (already there when adjusted for population).

Good grief. I haven't been here for a month or so - this stuff still going on? 🤦‍♀️ Time to retire again ...

Just to say still no local positives, per Premier this morning. Also, State govt support / cash grants to those forced into isolation and can't earn a living, plus to businesses etc. The local Woolworths, the scene of the Covidiot shopping, will be paying their staff in isolation.

Premier has asked Tas Police to look at any further charges that can be laid against the Covidiot, in addition to the fine thats been levied.
 
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Premier has asked Tas Police to look at any further charges that can be laid against the Covidiot, in addition to the fine thats been levied.
Mark McGowan has some form in this regard. Just ask those two (less than intelligent) Victorians
Observation… not judgement .. people
 

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Also NSW targeted the high risk LGAs with expedited vaccinations.

As was the case in Victoria. However the point of difference is that in NSW, that the NSW Gov and Federal Gov both did.
Whereas in Vic, the Vic Gov did, but the Federal Gov did not till their announcement on Sep 12, but in practice it was not till the last week of September that the ramp-up started and not till mid-Oct that the Primary Care Channel actually had reasonable capacity in Victoria. .



In Vic from August 50% of vaccinations in the State Channel were prioritised to go to hotspot LGA's. From July 13 anytime a local hotspot developed the State Chanel opened up pop-ups clinics. ie At the Al Taqwa School, at St Kilda. As cases grew more dedicated state hubs were opened up in the hotspot LGA's (including Australia's first drive through hub). Plus clinics at places of worship, council locations and many more schools. That has lifted the vaccination rates greatly, but without the Primary Care Channel functioning it has not yet got to the level desired.

At 100 cases per day Gladys declared a national emergency, at 200 cases per day the Federal Gov started allocating extra doses to the high risk LGA's in Sydney and at 415 cases per day the Federal Government the Fed Gov announced that of the extra Polish Pfizer (which it turned out was not extra coughulatively as the direct Pfizer orders in Sept were less that planned) that 530K would go to the NSW High risk LGA's. Victoria received 175K doses. With purchases from the Singapore and and the EU allocation was pro-rat, but NSW were distributed first.

In July and August with telling anyone over 430k of Pfizer was redirected from the Primary Care Channel Vic, and more from Qld too, to the NSW Primary Care Channel. Only when an ABC journalist put together various data sources was it discovered what the Federal Gov had been doing. So the announced "brought forward" Pfizer doses for NSW were actually not brought forward at all, but were instead taken from the Vic and Qld allocations who received less.

General Frewen also later reported that in Vic that the expansion of the Primary Care Channel was paused in August , whereas in NSW LGA's of concern it was accelerated. This was despite NSW already having pro-rata a much larger number of GP's already vaccinating. Whereas in Vic the Commonwealth's Primary Care Channel was the nations smallest on a pro-rata basis. As pharmacists were opened up in NSW and Qld, hardly any where approved by the Commonwealth in Vic, and priority of expanding pharmacies was given to NSW.

On Sept 12 the Fed announced that Vic would get 400K of catch up doses. However crucially most were to be Moderna and not the Pfizer that was not supplied. The problem with that as the Commonwealth had not yet adequately opened enough Pharmacists in Vic, and especially in the hotspot LGA's, and so it did not have the capacity to actually inject those Moderna doses. It is only now in mid-Oct that the Primary Care Channel including Pharmacists is adequately up and running. Due the that failure 130K doses of Moderna were switched to the Vic State Hub Channel to deliver, and this went to the hotspot Channels, but it meant it happened mainly in October and not September.



Now we all now that NSW had a dire need early on, and so some extra measures were warranted.
However those actions actually while greatly speeding up the NSW Vaccination Program, also slowed down the Victorian Vaccination Program.

Furthermore as cases grew in Victoria no effective redress occurred from the Feds in terms of vaccinations in arms till October. It is only now in in Victoria mid-October that Pharmacies and additional GP's are deployed at a reasonable level across the state. Prior to mid-Sept, the Primary Care Channel GPs in Vic were biased to the rural regions (Which is why Vic is the opposite of NSW where vaccination rates are lower in the regions) and non-hotpot LGA's of Melbourne.
 
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As was the case in Victoria. However the point of difference is that in NSW, that the NSW Gov and Federal Gov both did.
Whereas in Vic, the Vic Gov did, but the Federal Gov did not till their announcement on Sep 12, but in practice it was not till the last week of September that the ramp-up started and not till mid-Oct that the Primary Care Channel actually had reasonable capacity in Victoria. .



In Vic from August 50% of vaccinations in the State Channel were prioritised to go to hotspot LGA's. From July 13 anytime a local hotspot developed the State Chanel opened up pop-ups clinics. ie At the Al Taqwa School, at St Kilda. As cases grew more dedicated state hubs were opened up in the hotspot LGA's (including Australia's first drive through hub). Plus clinics at places of worship, council locations and many more schools. That has lifted the vaccination rates greatly, but without the Primary Care Channel functioning it has not yet got to the level desired.

At 100 cases per day Gladys declared a national emergency, at 200 cases per day the Federal Gov started allocating extra doses to the high risk LGA's in Sydney and at 415 cases per day the Federal Government the Fed Gov announced that of the extra Polish Pfizer (which it turned out was not extra coughulatively as the direct Pfizer orders in Sept were less that planned) that 530K would go to the NSW High risk LGA's. Victoria received 175K doses. With purchases from the Singapore and and the EU allocation was pro-rat, but NSW were distributed first.

In July and August with telling anyone over 430k of Pfizer was redirected from the Primary Care Channel Vic, and more from Qld too, to the NSW Primary Care Channel. Only when an ABC journalist put together various data sources was it discovered what the Federal Gov had been doing. So the announced "brought forward" Pfizer doses for NSW were actually not brought forward at all, but were instead taken from the Vic and Qld allocations who received less.

General Frewen also later reported that in Vic that the expansion of the Primary Care Channel was paused in August , whereas in NSW LGA's of concern it was accelerated. This was despite NSW already having pro-rata a much larger number of GP's already vaccinating. Whereas in Vic the Commonwealth's Primary Care Channel was the nations smallest on a pro-rata basis. As pharmacists were opened up in NSW and Qld, hardly any where approved by the Commonwealth in Vic, and priority of expanding pharmacies was given to NSW.

On Sept 12 the Fed announced that Vic would get 400K of catch up doses. However crucially most were to be Moderna and not the Pfizer that was not supplied. The problem with that as the Commonwealth had not yet adequately opened enough Pharmacists in Vic, and especially in the hotspot LGA's, and so it did not have the capacity to actually inject those Moderna doses. It is only now in mid-Oct that the Primary Care Channel including Pharmacists is adequately up and running. Due the that failure 130K doses of Moderna were switched to the Vic State Hub Channel to deliver, and this went to the hotspot Channels, but it meant it happened mainly in October and not September.



Now we all now that NSW had a dire need early on, and so some extra measures were warranted.
However those actions actually while greatly speeding up the NSW Vaccination Program, also slowed down the Victorian Vaccination Program.

Furthermore as cases grew in Victoria no effective redress occurred from the Feds in terms of vaccinations in arms till October. It is only now in in Victoria mid-October that Pharmacies and additional GP's are deployed at a reasonable level across the state. Prior to mid-Sept, the Primary Care Channel GPs in Vic were biased to the rural regions (Which is why Vic is the opposite of NSW where vaccination rates are lower in the regions) and non-hotpot LGA's of Melbourne.
Really good summary.
 

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Its important acknowledge the drastic reduction in hospitalisations, ICU and ventilated patients in NSW because it shows that despite 6 days of no lockdowns, the vaccination rate is making it possible to not be a hemit state. And the rest of tbe country will benefit from the evidence that living with covid is possible, especially the denier states still wanting covid zero.

We should be celebrating these sucesses.

Yawn for the vax excuse making by the usual suspect with failure to mention that Moderna is much easier to get in Vic because it is available at hubs as well as pharmacies which is not a privilege avaialble anywhere else in Australia, wont change facts that the supposed better policy approach didnt produce better outcomes.

NSW is not to blame for the slowness of Vic's vaccination roll-out. In early June Vic got extra doses (also conveniently not mentioned), look within rather than north for the root cause.

Always trying to deny acknowledgement of the hard work done in NSW to get to a good position. This thread is for discussion of spread, save your vaccination whinging for the vax thread.

Gladys declared a national emergency,

Lol NSW is not and has not been in State of emmergency at any time durng this whole pandemic, check your facts, health orders dont need an SOE. Gladys' comment was a media sound bite to drive action, not an actual declation and NSW doesnt have the power to declare a national anything. The feds who do, did not make any extra nationwide declarations either, their declarations to enable $ benefits were only in play where there were lockdowns greater than 1 week.

Fact is the over use of non targetted lockdowns leads to greater fatigue and lower compliance with health measures. All the snarky insults calling it a NSW virus, denegrating NSW policy look pretty studid now that harder and faster have not produced better outcomes.

The desire not to be materially behind NSW will now have a greater influence on loosening Vic restrictions, as the pressure for freedoms mount and vic govt loose goodwill of their residents who sacrificed too much for no extra benefit.
 
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