Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Pushka said:
Five more in SA. We are stuffed.
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Our hermit state is likely to be the most risk averse in AU and for those of us who live here will fully understand your comment "We are stuffed”. 12 cases and potentially climbing, at this rate we will be in home detention for longer than Melbourne was last year. ;) :rolleyes: :p
 
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jase05 said:
The winery is about 5 minutes away from my place and very popular. Have spent plenty of Sunday arvos there over time.
Nicola is expecting more cases but seemed quite calm so hopefully they are ahead of it at this stage
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At least we are consistent, in the early stages of covid one of the early SA outbreaks was linked to a winery and a group of US visitors. Some 1100 pages and 23K+ posts later we are back where we started from, less the US visitors.
 
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Big queues at Northern Beaches Hospital today as Woolworths in Glenrose Shopping Centre came up as a site. Nightmare getting into car park as blocked by the queud
 
Must...Fly! said:
Another bright spark out and about in NW Melbourne, no doubt.

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2.5 hours would be a long time for someone to just be checking out a "flu" symptom (waiting plus consult). Most practices tend to not allow people to wait for long periods at present. Though perhaps could have been a asymptomatic (ie later found by being linked to another case) patient having a longer procedure.

Also the practice normally closes at 7.30 PM.

It may have been a worker, or a cleaner and they may have been asymptomatic.
 
I had crudely plotted this up not long ago. However dBRaeven has now charted up the Victorian Cases in terms of what cases had already been infected by the time the Victorian lockdown started.

Green = already known
Yellow = already acquired infection, but not yet known
Orange = unknow acquisition/possibly acquired after lockdown

So if dbRaeven is accurate the great majority of the cases were already in train by when lockdown coomenced.

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Matt_01 said:
At least we are consistent, in the early stages of covid one of the early SA outbreaks was linked to a winery and a group of US visitors. Some 1100 pages and 23K+ posts later we are back where we started from, less the US visitors.
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The whole COVID lockdown scenario and associated concerns and inability plan life feels like Groundhog Day to me.
 
kyle said:
I was saying to my partner last night. Since it's mostly Asians around my area (east), there would be so few cases from this because no one watches AFL or rugby!
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Glass half full/correct or half empty/wrong? Nah, we just don't watch AFL but rugby, league etc. But then again, I am in Sydney! 😆😆😆
 
Epstein reporting new cases slightly higher than yesterday, but all linked.





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Slightly higher than 22 today in Vic (ie less than 5 more) But - update - all linked


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A few more cases today in Victoria compared to yesterday (was 22) Mostly personal close contacts of previous contacts, mostly isolated, & some new cases connected to the rugby game - transmission going into stadium
 
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Assuming NSW and Victoria actually manage to come out of the current lockdowns at all, it seems to me that any mass events (i.e. the AFL) should be crowd free until we reach whatever the mythical vaccination target is. No tennis, no F1. The images of the crowds entering and exiting say it all…
 
jb747 said:
Assuming NSW and Victoria actually manage to come out of the current lockdowns at all, it seems to me that any mass events (i.e. the AFL) should be crowd free until we reach whatever the mythical vaccination target is. No tennis, no F1. The images of the crowds entering and exiting say it all…
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Not disagreeing.

But noting that F1 will be say April, and AO late Jan and in theory by NYE will will probably have everyone vaccinated that wants to be or can be vaccinated (ie at or above the likely vaccination targe). The unknown being the under 12s, though both Moderna and Pfizer look to be progressing on that it may be that both of those could proceed with crowds attending.

The question by then might be can you only attend a mass event if you are fully vaccinated? And the same for say international travel.
 
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With this Delta Strain, and the Kappa Strain, I tend to think now that the only real number that matters is the number of cases that are infectious in the community. Those in the wild cases, as these are the one that start can new clusters. Whether that be for a long time, or even just a day.

These strains seem to rip through households and close contacts more completely than earlier strains and this balloons the case numbers compared to previous strains. So we will keep seeing cases from those that have already been exposed and particularly if in a shared household.

It also means that case numbers will keep appearing till we get past the 14 day period from the last case in the wild.

So with the 26, it is the two that had some infectious time in the community that are the cases that matter from the viewpoint of snuffing out the outbreak. Especially their movements in that time. The others will all be in quarantine.
 
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jb747 said:
Why leave domestic out? I don't like the idea of sitting in the back of a 737 surrounded by people of indeterminate vaccination status. Nor would I have wanted to sit in the coughpit with the unjabbed.
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Yes that one VA domestic flight shows that with Delta that multiple people on even a short flight can be infected.
 
SA has introduced special bubble arrangements for people who live by themselves, which makes me think we ain't getting out of lockdown next Tuesday.

A new exposure site is the whole of Elizabeth shopping centre for 3 hours on Monday 😱 That will surely be thousands of people now close contacts just from that (the shoppers and their households combined).
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jamescara said:
Interesting comment now from Mr Marshall. This morning he was suggesting they may have "nipped this in the bud"....
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On Saturday he said we 'dodged a bullet' 🙄
 
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