It’s only grey by the people who are hoping for it!that's what I mean by grey areas. I think I would not be relying on the ETA.
NO you cannot use an expired passport. Expired means it is no longer valid. They are very serious about this and will strictly adhere to the new regulation. UK government site plainly state that you MUST have a VALID current passport for entry in to UK. OR if you are NOT a dual citizen, then you MUST have an ETA which, I believe, cost GBP16 and is valid for 2 years.I suppose you could use an expired passport, but who knows how long the processing would take.
But the ETA application I understand asks if you are a UK citizen citizen, you’d need to provide false information in order to proceed.
The ramifications are that the ETA could be cancelled in the Aussie passport, which I wonder if that could then present problems of its own later on… like any time any other country asks if a visa or entry has been denied?
The rules are clear. for all dual UK citizens. You MUST enter and leave UK on a valid/current British passport (not expired). Leave and re-enter the country you reside in with that country's passport.I have just looked up the British High Commission, Canberra, Facebook page and see people pleading for some clarification; with no response as far as I can see!
I’m not suggesting you can use an expired passport to board you flight. However, if you arrived in the UK, by whatever means, as a British citizen you cannot be refused entry.NO you cannot use an expired passport. Expired means it is no longer valid. They are very serious about this and will strictly adhere to the new regulation. UK government site plainly state that you MUST have a VALID current passport for entry in to UK. OR if you are NOT a dual citizen, then you MUST have an ETA which, I believe, cost GBP16 and is valid for 2 years.
As in seeking a ‘special authorisation to board’? Doesn’t seem so.So I'm guessing the UK doesn't have anything similar to Canada for this situation?
Dual Canadian citizens can apply for permission to fly to Canada on a non-Canadian passport: Are you a dual Canadian citizen flying to Canada without a valid Canadian passport?
Hi Mel...you are correct. However, the problem could arise when you are departing the country in which you live.I’m not suggesting you can use an expired passport to board you flight. However, if you arrived in the UK, by whatever means, as a British citizen you cannot be refused entry.
UK border officials will seek to confirm your identity and British citizenship. For that purpose, even an expired British passport will be a good start. The only thing they’d need to check is that you haven’t lost your citizenship. Which is not that hard to confirm.
You can’t travel on that document, but it is evidence to allow you access.
It only took me a week to get mine recently so there is no scramble is people provide every piece of supporting information they require which includes a photocopy of every page of your Australian passport. Any short cut you try to make will make things more difficult for you.Thanks for confirming. A few Brit friends are now scrambling to get their UK passports back. Beats spending a few hours trying to convince a UK border officer to let you in! A number of them have senior family members in England and may need to get back in a hurry.
I’m not sure what qualifications you hold or what position you have ever held with the British Government but the information you are providing is incorrect in today’s world and could cause a lot of issues for anybody following it. I would suggest you delete your unfounded suggestion to save issues for other people. And yes, I do have a lot of professional experience working in a certain area of the British Govt so am speaking from a professional perspective.I’m not suggesting you can use an expired passport to board you flight. However, if you arrived in the UK, by whatever means, as a British citizen you cannot be refused entry.
UK border officials will seek to confirm your identity and British citizenship. For that purpose, even an expired British passport will be a good start. The only thing they’d need to check is that you haven’t lost your citizenship. Which is not that hard to confirm.
You can’t travel on that document, but it is evidence to allow you access.
I respect your comments. But the UK government is no different to Australia or other developed countries. As a citizen you cannot be refused entry.I’m not sure what qualifications you hold or what position you have ever held with the British Government but the information you are providing is incorrect in today’s world and could cause a lot of issues for anybody following it. I would suggest you delete your unfounded suggestion to save issues for other people. And yes, I do have a lot of professional experience working in a certain area of the British Govt so am speaking from a professional perspective.
Happy to make any correction if you can point to the text that is concerning you.At the end of the day, why would anyone not travel with the required documents as listed on a country’s website? Maybe if they are a refugee or have been living in a war zone and their document has been lost or destroyed. However, if travelling from Australia there is no reason why a UK citizen would not, and should not, travel to the UK from the required date with a valid UK passport unless they were trying to hide something.
I am stating a professional opinion in that your advice is for yourself and should not be written in such a forum as it could lead to major issues for anybody deciding to follow your ill informed suggestion.
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Regrettably in this case the British Nationality Act 1981 begs to differ: if you meet the legislated criteria it's automatically conferred until officially renounced. [British Nationality Act 1981]. Regardless if you've chosen to embrace it or not.
Although how they would actually be aware of, or enforce, it in real life I have no idea...
That’s the key point. If you’ve never laid claim to UK citizenship the UK can hardly ‘prove it’ or practically force it upon you. They’d need to have obtained birth certificates, and DNA tests to prove you’re actually the child of the parents listed on the birth certificate.
At the moment where they have no reason to do so.
If you’ve previously held a passport of other UK document, different story!
