Are QF aircraft slowing down?

[Lonely Flyer]

Curious as to why you say it cannot be used for 738 take offs, having been in one that did?

Obviously QF has much lower standards than VA.

 

[Shinkz]

The second runway has been there forever. It will take light aircraft and corporate style jets.

It cannot be used for 737-800 for take off and is rarely or ever used for 737-800 for landings. Loads would have to be very light before it was even considered.

I'm only telling you this because I am 100% certain. It is used for 737-8s both full empty on landing and take off and even cargo fairly regularly.

EDIT: Not to mention that sometimes the wind is actually preferred on the cross which saves airlines money.

 

[Lonely Flyer]

I'm only telling you this because I am 100% certain. It is used for 737-8s both full empty on landing and take off and even cargo fairly regularly.

EDIT: Not to mention that sometimes the wind is actually preferred on the cross which saves airlines money.

I hate to say I doubt you but my source is a very experienced 737-800 Captain who flies for VA.

My own knowledge said the cross runway was to short and he confirmed it.

 

[jimmylikesitwet]

Just looking at the numbers the 2nd runway at BNE is 1700m long and the 737-800 apparently needs 2400m at it's maximum take off weight.

So unless it's very light or those facts are wrong I'm guessing the 2nd runway isn't useable.

Nick

 

[markis10]

I hate to say I doubt you but my source is a very experienced 737-800 Captain who flies for VA.

My own knowledge said the cross runway was to short and he confirmed it.

In that case I hope they don't take off from HTI, which if course is pretty much the same length (albeit with a different PCN), wonder how HTI handles the 767s and 777s????

Just looking at the numbers the 2nd runway at BNE is 1700m long and the 737-800 apparently needs 2400m at it's maximum take off weight.

With all due respect that's an oversimplification.

 

[Shinkz]

I hate to say I doubt you but my source is a very experienced 737-800 Captain who flies for VA.

My own knowledge said the cross runway was to short and he confirmed it.

I've been involved in the design of this runway along with the new. Checkmate.

 

[Lonely Flyer]

I've been involved in the design of this runway along with the new. Checkmate.

This runway was completed in 1988 or thereabouts along with the main runway. Checkmate .....rubbish. I find my source the most creditable.

And there is this

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/Q2_2013_Brisbane_Archerfield.pdf

 

[Shinkz]

This runway was completed in 1988 or thereabouts along with the main runway. Checkmate .....rubbish. I find my source the most creditable.

And there is this

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/Q2_2013_Brisbane_Archerfield.pdf

Lol mate. .... This runway was ORIGINALLY BUILT in 88. It has been completely redesigned and resurfaced in 2013-early2014 as I have previously stated (you need to actually read what myself and others are saying to you in this thread prior to writing off a quick one liner about your old mate pilot knows best. Your source had nothing to do with he design and therefore knows absolutely nothing about the capabilities of the surface.

<please> take some factual advice when you get it. It is painfully obvious that the cross runway can only be used under the correct conditions so take a look at some of the images others have posted in the thread and when all else fails go to youtube and watch a few videos of the 737s on the cross.

I think this thread should get back on topic, the OP's post. If you have anything further to say please feel free to make a new thread or message me privately.

 

[otchi]

When an Emirates A380 damaged the main runway 19 on departure last year only aircraft up to 737-700 size continued to land using the cross runway 14. All the 737-800 had to divert it other airports. Take offs were unaffected by the damage though so no idea if a 737-800 can use the runway for departure.

Brisbane Airport Movements: Runway 19 threshold surface damage

 

[Shinkz]

When an Emirates A380 damaged the main runway 19 on departure last year only aircraft up to 737-700 size continued to land using the cross runway 14. All the 737-800 had to divert it other airports. Take offs were unaffected by the damage though so no idea if a 737-800 can use the runway for departure.

Brisbane Airport Movements: Runway 19 threshold surface damage

I do believe this was one of the key reasons for the resurface when they put the pipes under early this year. I think it reopened in late March.

 

[Boris spatsky]

Can we get back OT please?

 

[JimmeRuss]

MEL-ADL now 1h25m ... I remember when it was 50mins or thereabouts!

 

[markis10]

As alluded to earlier, the timetable is designed to give you a gate to gate realistic time and help with the OTD/OTA stats that the Feds so meticulously collect, it's relation to reality will vary.

 

[TomVexille]

As alluded to earlier, the timetable is designed to give you a gate to gate realistic time and help with the OTD/OTA stats that the Feds so meticulously collect, it's relation to reality will vary.

For some reason people don't seem to be familiar with "block time"

 

[Mr_Orange]

As alluded to earlier, the timetable is designed to give you a gate to gate realistic time and help with the OTD/OTA stats that the Feds so meticulously collect, it's relation to reality will vary.

Personally, I prefer a 'realistic' gate to gate time as opposed to just flying time. It makes far more sense and is more comparable to, say, a train timetable.

If one changed the latter to match an airline timetable, then catching the train from A to B might be 1 hour, but with 15 minutes extra each end waiting at signals or getting a platform.

 

[gaz0303]

So do we know if 'gate to gate' time for QF flights have increased recently, especially for QFlink flights into T3, compared to when they arrived at T2?