Airpoints needed for AKL-YVR flight

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lissthree

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Am thinking of changing my velocity membership to Amex membership rewards as the later allows you to move your points to airline FFP incl ANZ, to increase your flight options. I understand that you need to be a member of each of these FPP so you have an account to move the points to, so that's not a problem.

how many airpoints are required for an AWARD seat for AKL-YVR in either Y or PY? And if no award seats available then how many airpoints for an ' any seat' in the same classes?

thanks in anticipation :)
 

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There are no "reward" fare buckets for Airpoint redemptions on AirNZ flights.

To redeem on AirNZ flights you need 1 Airpoint Dollar (APD) for each dollar of fare cost.

You then need to pay the taxes/levys/charges (+++) in real $$$.

So if the total cost for an economy booking is, say, $1800 with $200 of that in +++ then you need 160000 Amex MR points to convert to 1600 APD.

In other words with Airpoints it is only "Any Seat" for Air NZ flights.
 
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The only way around this would be to add an AIr Canada flight to create a star alliance award, then in theory it will come out of the award inventory (if such inventory even exists, apparently very difficult to get trans pac). But then it's going to require a AC intra region sector (175 APD) plus AKL-YVR sector (705 APD) plus $100 booking fee.... May be better off just paying commercial fare,
 
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Thanks serfty. Good to know. If ANZ don't offer their own FF members any reward seats, I can see why I can't seem to get access to them as Velocity FF member !!
 

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Question for you dajop: We are flying VYR to either LGA or JFK and AC go via a Canadian stopover, either Toronto or Montreal. I could easily just purchase the YVR to either of these cities and then book the next leg to NYC separately.

Would I then do an AC search of AKL-YVR- (one of these two cities in Canada) so as to meet the intra region fare you are talking about? Is that likely to bring the cost down in terms of points needed? Or is that too simplistic and I have misunderstood what your are saying?
Thanks so far for the help
 

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Thanks serfty. Good to know. If ANZ don't offer their own FF members any reward seats, I can see why I can't seem to get access to them as Velocity FF member !!
They do have "reward fare buckets" available to member of partner airline programs (but not their own), but the term "Scarce as hen's teeth" comes to mind.
 

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Question for you dajop: We are flying VYR to either LGA or JFK and AC go via a Canadian stopover, either Toronto or Montreal. I could easily just purchase the YVR to either of these cities and then book the next leg to NYC separately.

Would I then do an AC search of AKL-YVR- (one of these two cities in Canada) so as to meet the intra region fare you are talking about? Is that likely to bring the cost down in terms of points needed? Or is that too simplistic and I have misunderstood what your are saying?
Thanks so far for the help

So to answer your question ......

Firstly, the upside to doing star alliance redemptions using NZ Airpoints Dollars, there are no complicated rules you can do what you want, as long as there is availability. You can combine business with economy, you can do stopovers or not do stopovers, etc etc .... the reason is that each sector is priced separately according the airpoints partner table. You could fly NZ to YVR, then Air Canada or United on to your next port on a date of your choosing (or even continue on Lufthansa to Germany, or ANA to Japan if that's what you wanted).

But, and it's a big but, there are no tricks to save points. Each time you add a flight you add extra Airpoints Dollars to the amount required. Essentially a redemption will cost you the sum of all the one way flights. Making it quite expensive. And then add a $100 service/booking fee on top for each itinerary (this is for the whole itinerary not each flight). To work the cost, you go to the star alliance award table, and look at where the flight is .... so Auckland to Vancouver is in the zone "New Zealand to North America" whilst a flight from Vancouver to Toronto will be in the "Intra Zone - International, more than 2000km) etc. Bottom line is that these can start adding up very quickly.

A better option for you, if looking at Amex is looking at availability using Krisflyer (which you can also transfer to). Although I've just checked availablity using ANA's booking tool and there's really only a handful of available dates for this. Otherwise you'd need to try flying via SYD, LAX or SFO, probably using Krisflyer miles.

They do have "reward fare buckets" available to member of partner airline programs (but not their own), but the term "Scarce as hen's teeth" comes to mind.

Not strictly true, as I mentioned, they do make "reward fare buckets" available (in theory) to own members when part an award booking that includes flights from other star alliance members. But I think the term "scarce as hens teeth" is equally applicable though!
 
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