Air India Crash at Mangalore in India.

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News is still breaking but apparently the plane crashed on landing, the early reports seem to be very dim in outlook as far as survivors go:

Plane overshoots runway in India, bursts into flames: reports

An Air India plane with around 160 passengers on board overshot a runway on landing in southern Indian city of Mangalore on Saturday and burst into flames, local television reported.
 
Apparently it is an Air India Express B737-800 that was arriving from Dubai.


RIP to those killed
 
Its a table top runway which explains the pessimism from the early reports coming through.
 
Some of the initial reports are odd, ranging all the way to the plane is laying on a mountain side facing uphill up to 10 miles from the airport. That’d be a very big overshoot.

BBC says there could be 169 dead made up of 163 passengers and 6 crew. Also 4 infants.
 
The footage coming out doesn't suggest much in regards to location, just slot of flames in the area. RIP to those involved as it does indeed seem that there may be only a handful of survivors.

Apart from the Kenya and Ethiopian accidents, it seems that landing the 738 seems the most difficult part of the flight? Is this a known problem design wise or skill wise or neither?
 
News reports are currently suggesting that 8 people have survived the crash.

Other items included that the plane had a Russian pilot and the crash site was several kilometers from the airport.
 
**Warning - this link contains pictures from the AI crash - and some may find it very distressing**

drugoi:


A sad day indeed.
 
News reports are currently suggesting that 8 people have survived the crash.
Sadly one child who initially survived the crash has since died from injuries.

Other items included that the plane had a Russian pilot and the crash site was several kilometers from the airport.
One report says the pilot was a British citizen of Serbian origin with 10,000 hours experience.
 
Seven survive, 159 die in Air India Express runway crash

More from news.com.au:

A PASSENGER plane crash in southern India killed 159 people, India's civil aviation minister confirmed last night with seven people surviving the disaster.
A police official said one of the survivors, a seven-year-old boy, had later died from his injuries.
He said the plane overshot the runway by about 2000 feet, leading to the crash.
The airline said the pilot was a 55-year-old British citizen of Serbian origin who had 10,000 hours of flying experience.
Very sad indeed. Seems quite a few 737-800s recently overshooting runways. Will be interesting see what factors aligned to cause this one.
 
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There are reports of the aircraft being high on the ILS approach and the actual touchdown was beyond the touchdown markers but apparently not by much, weather was good however it was early in the morning so I suspect fatigue was a factor!
 
**Warning - this link contains pictures from the AI crash - and some may find it very distressing**

drugoi:

I’m very lucky I’ve had experience with Rotten.com when I was younger as the images contained in that link are incredibly graphic. Don’t want to know how you found that.
 
Apart from the Kenya and Ethiopian accidents, it seems that landing the 738 seems the most difficult part of the flight? Is this a known problem design wise or skill wise or neither?
I would think not when you put it in the perspective that landing is always the most difficult part of the flight so if anything is going to go wrong then that is when it most likely will happen.

Here is the link to the PPRuNe discussion on the accident. There are a few comments about the 738 and how it is harder to stop than some others.

I also emphasise that it is an open discussion as it is The Professional Pilots Rumour Network.
 
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Well, the coughpit voice recorder has been found, still no sign of the "black Box" yet.
 
Speed, landing point focus of Air India Express crash investigation

From ATW Daily News:

Indian crash investigators are focusing on the speed and touchdown point of an Air India Express 737-8HG that crashed at Mangalore-Bajpe Airport Saturday morning, killing 158 of the 166 passengers and crew onboard.
 
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