Ain't all beer and skittles working as FA on SQ

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From the Miles Down Under blog "a former SQ Stewardess writes long rant".

She's definitely feeling "pek chek" but still "super-toot" with no "chao geng" going on. :-) Not sure I'd call it a rant* though, very heart felt perhaps.

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*no, actually it's a bit ranty
 
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Read the entire thing - pretty long but so fascinating. Always had a lot of respect for FAs, but this has really reinforced it.
 
Read the entire thing - pretty long but so fascinating. Always had a lot of respect for FAs, but this has really reinforced it.

That's what I thought.

I found the comparison of pax to be the most interesting part.
 
I really did struggle to read past the incessant whinging but was an interesting read none the less.

Without racial/socioeconomic profiling or discrimination... The demographic of passengers and the way they treat FA's is something I've always noticed and been intrigued by. The cultural differences can rip a mammoth divide through the situation, but at the end of the day a little bit of courtesy goes a long way.

Clearly she wasn't cut out to be a FA, whether that's because of SQ or not, at least she recognised this and made a change.
 
Love it! Now I know why SQ treats their passengers so well - it's because the passengers are always right no matter how wrong ;) :D :)

And I recall an AFF'er who recently flew Suites and another fellow passenger was complaining so much about the AFF'er and how they must have been upgraded and not entitled to be in Suites. I wonder what nationality that person was, not a Singaporean by any chance? The writer does like to bag out her fellow country-men for being terrible as passengers.

Let me give an example. This is the difference between an Angmoh and a Singaporean:

[FTW an Angmoh = is colloquially a white person/foreigner]

ANGMOH
: Hi Sir welcome onboard!!!!!!!
: Oh Hello!! How are you??
: I'm fine thank you, how are you?

SOME SINGAPOREAN/ASIANS
: Hi Sir welcome onboard!
: Straits Times.
 
Mrs Fokker and I had a Y flight to Singapore a while ago and after we'd settled in set about watching the crew at work during boarding (as one does). The senior FA walks up to the non-angmoh gentlemen across the aisle from us and sternly says "SIR ! I need two things from you. one, put your foot rest up and two, turn your phone off. Please."

We loved it - that's how you get things done. For the rest of the trip we'd be saying things to each other like "Mrs Fokker. I need two things from you. one, another drink and two, a massage".... Even a year on I still get "Mr Fokker I need two things from you. one take the rubbish out and two <variable>...."
 
What? She was surprised that as a FA she would miss birthdays, anniversaries, Christmas etc?

Did she even read the job description before signing on?
 
The complaining/difficult passengers and local v other pax is interesting as Ive read/been told many times the FAs treat the locals badly but Ive not seen it myself.

I think it was my last flight as a Y pax that a woman was coughing because her special meal that she did not order wasn't available and she coughed and moan about it for about 6hrs and how she "flies all the time" and "spends lots of money with this airline" and "Im going to complain!".

One of the FAs quietly apologised to me for hearing the complaining/putting down the FAs and hope it didn't disrupt my flight and oh, if you are happy - can you please complete these feedback cards for us and we'll give you a packet of cards as a gift.

I must admit, Im like the NZ passenger asking for a drink she described.
 
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It's on a blog, and she's not in the job. This was likely the first time she could actually "tell it as it is". Any other time and even if it were a more moderate rant, she would have likely lost her job, with additional prejudices.

Love it! Now I know why SQ treats their passengers so well - it's because the passengers are always right no matter how wrong ;) :D :)

And this is where I'm a bit uncomfortable sometimes. Not with SQ in particular, but this whole thing where a customer is entitled to be right when they are clearly wrong (and even more so when that customer is behaving maliciously). "The customer is always right" - hell no, and I loathe that saying; yes, many say it is not the literal interpretation that is important but the frame of mind or ethos that it sets in order to deal with customers, which I still argue is not conducive enough to keep that rule as customers themselves use that very "rule" to their own carte blanche malicious advantage.

In a way sometimes, this is why I like the Qantas FAs (on a good day), as they are very accommodating and understanding but they are still real people.

Given a passenger who really does nothing wrong and is considerate etc., there would be little to no need for this whole discussing attitudes between FAs of different airlines business.

And I recall an AFF'er who recently flew Suites and another fellow passenger was complaining so much about the AFF'er and how they must have been upgraded and not entitled to be in Suites. I wonder what nationality that person was, not a Singaporean by any chance? The writer does like to bag out her fellow country-men for being terrible as passengers.

I'm not Singaporean myself but I can kind of understand the culture (and I believe you understand it as well), and we both know there's a large grain of truth in what she is saying about her fellow countrymen.

I'd like to see the post where a fellow AFFer was being bagged for "not belonging" to Suites - my guess it is in the very large SQ Suites thread. It's not the first time such a complaint has been noticed (not in SQ in general, but other airlines as well), though it does vary as to how large the issue gets.

The funny thing is that even if ang moh seem to behave better on average than Singaporeans (maybe only on SQ), we can all agree that an ill-behaving ang moh might be one of the worst nightmares to contend with.

What? She was surprised that as a FA she would miss birthdays, anniversaries, Christmas etc?

Did she even read the job description before signing on?

My guess is 'no', though my suspicion is that such detail would not be in the job description; more in their contract, of which I have no idea when they get their first exposure to.

She did admit freely that she did not consider all of the ramifications of the job when she was given it (and others made the same mistake). As for the short time in the job, part of it would be stress but another part of it would likely be forced redundancy once you reach a certain age unless you manage to get promoted or off the flying gig and onto another position in the company.


When it's all said and done, I'm sure her story is not isolated, nor is it necessarily typical, and we can also find other FAs in other airlines who would write a similar entry.
 
When I first started reading I expected her to have been in the industry for 20 odd years... Not two..
 
I'm not Singaporean myself but I can kind of understand the culture (and I believe you understand it as well), and we both know there's a large grain of truth in what she is saying about her fellow countrymen.

It's a common assumption that filipino domestic helpers in Singapore prefer to work for "ang-mohs" (western foreigners) for this reason as well, in that they can be treated slightly better than if they were working for locals. Mind you, I don't think it's as bad in Singapore as it would seem in some parts of Asia, eg. Korea (anyone recall the hissy fit of the daughter of KE's CEO recently?).

Also, some of the treatment that the FA alleges she received from her employer, is probably common place, and could even be considered somewhat lenient! Certainly the environment here favours businesses/employers much more than it does employees. Even foreign MNC's get away with stuff here that they simply couldn't in many developed countries (and indeed lesser developed countries as well).
 
IAnd this is where I'm a bit uncomfortable sometimes. Not with SQ in particular, but this whole thing where a customer is entitled to be right when they are clearly wrong

Guess that is ingrained in the SQ attendants hence they always try to please, no matter how rude a flyer is. That said, I am sure most of us here are pretty low maintenance flyers and display very good manners. I personally refrain from using the call bell, I think I have used it like once in 50 flights, and when I ask for something I always phrase it so that they attend to my request when they are able to, and not because I have demanded it.

I'd like to see the post where a fellow AFFer was being bagged for "not belonging" to Suites - my guess it is in the very large SQ Suites thread. It's not the first time such a complaint has been noticed (not in SQ in general, but other airlines as well), though it does vary as to how large the issue gets.

Managed to find the post

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....-777-300er-first-class-64400.html#post1227328

So just completed this flight the other day, Love the plane and the seats however being my first time in F I'm sure I'm easy to please. Honestly the flight though was pretty bad, very rude passenger who was upset about an infant in F even though though she actually did not make a sound for the whole 8 hours and flight crew who's service was "OK" but did not step in at all when said passenger made numeros comments throughout the flight about an infant on board and even suggested to my face that we must be upgrades. However our second flight SQ328 (Old F) was just amazing! The flight crew where by far the best I have ever experienced and other passengers very friendly and accepting. With a free seat availbile our little one slept for 8 hours played quietly for 2 and went for a walk when she got a little fussy. Best flight of my life and did not even notice that this was an older plane or product.
 
Funnily enough, my wife was in the same 'batch' training group as the author.

She has since left but I have a few friends still flying and it definitely isn't an easy job!

The crew can be harder to handle than the passengers they are serving.
 
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