africa to south america using oneworld

[nat000]

hi
can anyone tell me if there is a oneworld carrier that flys from africa (preferrably south africa) to south america (going to lima) that doesn't require me going on BA via london. trying to keep the miles down as it is part of a RTW award flight.

 

[deadfish]

hi
can anyone tell me if there is a oneworld carrier that flys from africa (preferrably south africa) to south america (going to lima) that doesn't require me going on BA via london. trying to keep the miles down as it is part of a RTW award flight.

None, unfortunately. Malaysian used to fly Buenos Aires-Cape Town, but was cancelled prior to joining OW.

Your options out of South Africa are limited to BA to London, QF to Sydney or CX to Hong Kong. Other parts of Africa are even worse, with only the European carriers + Royal Jordanian serving a number of major cities.

 

[nate89]

I'm not particularly well-versed in these kind of things, but it seems you can fly to sao paolo from johannesburg with SA airways from which i am guessing you could find a flight to Lima...? (or visa versa)

[e]
LAN fly Sao Paolo to Lima so you might be able to tie it in to the RTW somehow.

As I said - I am not well versed in doing things like these :x Sorry if I have made a mistake!

 

[Danger]

hi
can anyone tell me if there is a oneworld carrier that flys from africa (preferrably south africa) to south america (going to lima) that doesn't require me going on BA via london. trying to keep the miles down as it is part of a RTW award flight.

There is.

Iberia is your option but it may not be exactly what you're after. Iberia has connections through MAD and BCN (although also via MAD) to LIM. The ex-African connections might not be so attractive, however. IB flies between MAD and Luanda (Angola), Malabo (Cameroon), Lagos (Nigeria) and Accra (Angola) among others.

 

[casanovawa]

I'm not particularly well-versed in these kind of things, but it seems you can fly to sao paolo from johannesburg with SA airways from which i am guessing you could find a flight to Lima...? (or visa versa)

[e]
LAN fly Sao Paolo to Lima so you might be able to tie it in to the RTW somehow.

As I said - I am not well versed in doing things like these :x Sorry if I have made a mistake!

South African Airways is a Star Alliance carrier, not a OW, its just a partner of QF...

In 2011 i flew IB from MAD to JNB but i don't think i see that flight anymore so it may have been cancelled in IBs recent cuts??? But yes they still fly to a few other African destinations... But seems like BA up to Europe from JNB might be your best bet and then BA down to GIG or from MAD IB or LA down to South America??

 

[nate89]

South African Airways is a Star Alliance carrier, not a OW, its just a partner of QF...

In 2011 i flew IB from MAD to JNB but i don't think i see that flight anymore so it may have been cancelled in IBs recent cuts??? But yes they still fly to a few other African destinations... But seems like BA up to Europe from JNB might be your best bet and then BA down to GIG or from MAD IB or LA down to South America??

Poop.

Thank you for the correction; I presumed that the QF partnership extended to OW, but that was wrong. This makes a whole lot of sense now in why I have been struggling with OW RTW's!

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Iberia has stopped flying JNB-MAD so LHR is your only real option on a OW RTW.

You could do a Star Alliance RTW which means you can fly JNB-GRU-LIM, and if you credit the whole trip to Aegean, you should be able to get Star Gold status out of it (only requires 20,000 miles, just need to see what the RTW fare buckets credit to Aegean from the various airlines you fly), although you'll have to fly back via LAX on Air New Zealand or United rather than through Santiago on LAN/QF.

 

[dot]

I always find the OneWorld interactive route map to be useful with these questions - see oneworld Online Timetable.

 

[AshM]

The short answer is no, unfortunately. I've spent much of the last few months planning a RTW trip and I wanted to go the other way - from South America to South Africa. There is simply no easy way to do it on oneworld carriers. So I'm actually using AA miles to do South America as a separate side trip from North America. I then end up flying JFK-LHR-JNB on BA. Obviously, this sort of circuitous route wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. You could fly JNB-LHR and on to South America (GIG, GRU or EZE) but the miles start to add up if you plan to go to North America afterwards. You just can't cross the Atlantic on oneworld using Africa as a departure or destination point. As suggested, have a look at the interactive map for relevant connections.

 

[casanovawa]

As food for thought, in 2011 on a QF 140,000 OW award i flew SYD-EZE (stop) and then used a LAN airpass to fly from Buenos Aries-La Paz, Cusco-Lima, Lima-Iguassu Falls and then cheap GOL flight to Rio

I then resumed the 140k award GIG-MIA-ORF (stop) and did a road trip round US/Canada ending in Chicago

Resumed the 140k award ORD-LHR-ARN then used cheap Euro airlines and a bus ticket to go Stockholm-Oslo-Copehagen-Berlin

Resumed the 140k award to fly TXL-LHR-FCO and then train from Rome-Naples

Resumed the 140k award NAP-MAD-BCN-MAD-JNB (stop) and used cheap African airlines to fly up to Victoria Falls and down to Cape Town and back to Johannesburg

Resumed the 140k award JNB-SYD....

That came in at less than 35,000 miles (including land legs) and 5 stops and i just used the 140k award as the backbone between continents and then found other cheap ways of getting around within them mostly...

 

[fersea]

i just used the 140k award as the backbone between continents and then found other cheap ways of getting around within them mostly...

That is my plan. My just focussing on continent to continent you can get Aus - South America - North America - Europe - Africa - Asia - Australia easily within the 35K miles.

Its a pity that there are no South America to Africa direct flights. If you think about it, say Rio to Cape Town wouldn't be that long a flight.

 

[fersea]

GIG - CPT = 3788 miles according to gc mapper.

 

[browski]

In early 2014, Qatar Airways joins OW, so if your trip is not for a while, then that might be an option.

JNB-WDK on BA(Comair) then Luanda-Madrid-Lima on IB is your other option.

 

[nat000]

thankyou everyone for your help and suggestions. looks like i might have to go back to the drawing board. luckily the trip is not till feb 2015, i'm just planning very far ahead.
i do have a slightly different plan that just fits into the 35k miles. feel free anyone to comment on flights that may reduce taxes for the following RTW
per-doh-nbo(stop)(qatar)-own way to capetown, cpt-lhr(stop, side trip to stockholm)(ba), lhr-lax-hnl(stop)(AA), hnl-nrt(stop)(JAL), nrt-gum(stop)(jal), own way gum-manila, mnl-drw-per (jestar, qantas).

 

[casanovawa]

I went on Qatar's site and they seem to already have a page advertising One World Explorer fares, so not sure when precisely you can start using them, but using GCM i put in JNB-DOH-GRU (i think it was GRU) and it worked out to be a few thousand miles more than JNB-LHR-EZE or GIG (whichever one i used) anyway from JNB it didn't seem to work out shorter to go via DOH...

If it will work for the person, maybe the easiest way is to save the miles for getting around one of the continents and book a flight (using SAA maybe) from JNB to GRU etc and just treat that as a land leg, or at least a non flight leg, can you do that picking up from one continent to the next or only within continents??? Where you spend $s on one part you might pick up on another part and save yourself some time to boot...

 

[casanovawa]

thankyou everyone for your help and suggestions. looks like i might have to go back to the drawing board. luckily the trip is not till feb 2015, i'm just planning very far ahead.
i do have a slightly different plan that just fits into the 35k miles. feel free anyone to comment on flights that may reduce taxes for the following RTW
per-doh-nbo(stop)(qatar)-own way to capetown, cpt-lhr(stop, side trip to stockholm)(ba), lhr-lax-hnl(stop)(AA), hnl-nrt(stop)(JAL), nrt-gum(stop)(jal), own way gum-manila, mnl-drw-per (jestar, qantas).

Looks like an interesting trip....

 

[Mwenenzi]

I went on Qatar's site and they seem to already have a page advertising One World Explorer fares, .

This is the Global Explorer (mileage based). Not the OneWorld Explorer (continent based). GL explorer's have a wide range on non OW airline partners and therefore have different/more possible destinations.
global explorer

When QR join OW they will have the OneWorld Explorer

 

[casanovawa]

Yeah, that was the page i was looking at and with this bit up the top

Fly around the world and chose from over 900 destinations in 160 countries. With the Global Explorer, a product of the partnership between Qatar Airways and oneworld

wondered how it meshed with them not being a member of OW at the moment...

 

[aikman]

thankyou everyone for your help and suggestions. looks like i might have to go back to the drawing board. luckily the trip is not till feb 2015, i'm just planning very far ahead.
i do have a slightly different plan that just fits into the 35k miles. feel free anyone to comment on flights that may reduce taxes for the following RTW
per-doh-nbo(stop)(qatar)-own way to capetown, cpt-lhr(stop, side trip to stockholm)(ba), lhr-lax-hnl(stop)(AA), hnl-nrt(stop)(JAL), nrt-gum(stop)(jal), own way gum-manila, mnl-drw-per (jestar, qantas).

You might want to replan. You can't use Jetstar on the 35k mile award.

 

[nat000]

You might want to replan. You can't use Jetstar on the 35k mile award.

oh no, i didn't know that. hmmm. lucky i've got plenty of time to plan. thanks