AFF Review: Virgin Australia Business Class (DRW-MEL)

I encountered the same menu choices in Business from DPS to Mel..... I can not understand why they offer two different meals with the same sauce …. mushroom. I did give written feedback at the time. I, along with a lot of other people are allergic to mushrooms. I did finish up with a pleasant toastie though and the usual fare of some cheese and crackers. This is part of the fare trade off I guess.
 
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I travelled bus class recently for the first time with virgin from melb to Sunshine Coast. An amazing experience. The lounge was great, and as you said, it's those little things that make it worthwhile.
 
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I had to go PER-MEL towards the end of OCT. Price wasn't cheap even in Y.

This was my first flight for a long long time and previously I had status - so this was the first time I'd been faced with the horrid kiosks. I was very early at PER and looked over the sea of sad little vertical sticks with no-one negotiating them. This put me into a foul mood straight up, but not for long as I found a couple of service people hiding behind a big wall/barrier and they checked me in, in the time honoured fashion, so, great!

Had a few digital lounge passes, one expiring on the same day, so wandered off to the lounge.

PER lounge is pretty large and there couldn't have been more than a dozen pax inside, felt pretty deserted. Food offerings pathetic, though the coconut cream curry soup was delicious. The staff were good though and they looked after me.

Given the lack of people in the lounge I thought it might be a light flight - nope - packed. No space in the overheads so I had to put my bag at my feet. Seat felt like the cushioning had collapsed. It was a bearable 3.5hr flight to MEL, but only just ... thats domestic Y for you.

For once the baggage handlers and carousel operators at MEL seemed to have themselves in order - my usual experience coming into MEL is that they don't display the incoming PER flight on the boards so no-one ever knows which carousel to use - this turns into a big revolving mob of people slowing circulating from 1 through 3 and back again until you see you bag on the belt. This time though the flight was displayed and the bags came relatively quickly.

Got an email when I arrived in MEL from VA asking if I'd like to upgrade the flight I'd just taken to J (bit late guys!)

Anyway, this is a long preamble to deciding that 3.5hrs on a worn out 737 in Y was pretty horrid and I started looking for opportunities to upgrade my seat on the return to PER in a weeks time as the anticipated flight time MEL-PER is usually around 4.5 hrs.

I made the lowest possible offer, I think it was $280 and the next day received confirmation of acceptance.

I had a pleasant checkin experience at MEL, waltzed through security and on to the lounge. MEL lounge is always a better proposition than PER and so it was this time. Packed to the gills, but at least they had some warm food ... pretty uninspiring as is usual, but 500% better than PER's lack of interest.

Boarding was a zoo. There were two clearly marked lanes, standard and priority, but there was initially no gate staff at the standard lane and I'm pretty sure as a result everyone moved across to the priority lane. Boarding was slow and tedious despite shuffling half the pax to the rear door via the stairs.

I'd scored row 1 in J so was pretty happy about that. Overhead storage this time. But geez. 737 J was never very special and the offering now hasn't exactly got better with time and new ownership.

- Seat hard and super uncomfortable as J has always been for VA in these birds
- No pillow or blanket
- No USB or power of any type for your device
- No tablet to watch the wifi based entertainment. I wouldn't have cared so much but a lack of USB power meant that an already flat mobile phone didn't last more than a couple of minutes into watching something
- No amenity kit, not that it matters, theres no fooling anyone with this 'J' product offering ... its a rather poor Y+ at best.

- Food was good, though uninspired.
- Theres no menu, so the attendant has to state and re-state the menu options to everyone - and the 737 is a noisy beast so I observed the poor attendant having to go over this again and again, not only with me.
- Drinks are ok, but again, no menu, so when you're asked what you want to drink you have to ask what they have loaded and then ask again because - well - its hard to hear.

It was an evening flight so after dinner service all my neighbours tried to settle in and the lights were dimmed - and there started the great squirm. These seats are a lot bigger than in Y, for sure, but massively uncomfortable. Everyone is squirming about and scrunching themselves up into balls with varying levels of success. There is virtually no recline in either Y or J.

Frankly, it was a shocking flight and I won't be doing that again.

Its certainly true that nothing much has changed in the last few years, those things that have changed are worse. I stopped flying 737 J a long time before VA1 collapsed and used to carefully choose the transcon A330's which were a much _much_ better proposition, even in Y. THose are gone now, presumably forever on VA.

QF is still flying 330's transcon now and then. Have to be careful and theres always the possibility of them changing the plane on you, but at least there is some hope, with careful planning. A lot more expensive in $$ on the QF metal of course but if you do manage to score the 330 then its worthwhile.
 
I had to go PER-MEL towards the end of OCT. Price wasn't cheap even in Y.

This was my first flight for a long long time and previously I had status - so this was the first time I'd been faced with the horrid kiosks. I was very early at PER and looked over the sea of sad little vertical sticks with no-one negotiating them. This put me into a foul mood straight up, but not for long as I found a couple of service people hiding behind a big wall/barrier and they checked me in, in the time honoured fashion, so, great!

Had a few digital lounge passes, one expiring on the same day, so wandered off to the lounge.

PER lounge is pretty large and there couldn't have been more than a dozen pax inside, felt pretty deserted. Food offerings pathetic, though the coconut cream curry soup was delicious. The staff were good though and they looked after me.

Given the lack of people in the lounge I thought it might be a light flight - nope - packed. No space in the overheads so I had to put my bag at my feet. Seat felt like the cushioning had collapsed. It was a bearable 3.5hr flight to MEL, but only just ... thats domestic Y for you.

For once the baggage handlers and carousel operators at MEL seemed to have themselves in order - my usual experience coming into MEL is that they don't display the incoming PER flight on the boards so no-one ever knows which carousel to use - this turns into a big revolving mob of people slowing circulating from 1 through 3 and back again until you see you bag on the belt. This time though the flight was displayed and the bags came relatively quickly.

Got an email when I arrived in MEL from VA asking if I'd like to upgrade the flight I'd just taken to J (bit late guys!)

Anyway, this is a long preamble to deciding that 3.5hrs on a worn out 737 in Y was pretty horrid and I started looking for opportunities to upgrade my seat on the return to PER in a weeks time as the anticipated flight time MEL-PER is usually around 4.5 hrs.

I made the lowest possible offer, I think it was $280 and the next day received confirmation of acceptance.

I had a pleasant checkin experience at MEL, waltzed through security and on to the lounge. MEL lounge is always a better proposition than PER and so it was this time. Packed to the gills, but at least they had some warm food ... pretty uninspiring as is usual, but 500% better than PER's lack of interest.

Boarding was a zoo. There were two clearly marked lanes, standard and priority, but there was initially no gate staff at the standard lane and I'm pretty sure as a result everyone moved across to the priority lane. Boarding was slow and tedious despite shuffling half the pax to the rear door via the stairs.

I'd scored row 1 in J so was pretty happy about that. Overhead storage this time. But geez. 737 J was never very special and the offering now hasn't exactly got better with time and new ownership.

- Seat hard and super uncomfortable as J has always been for VA in these birds
- No pillow or blanket
- No USB or power of any type for your device
- No tablet to watch the wifi based entertainment. I wouldn't have cared so much but a lack of USB power meant that an already flat mobile phone didn't last more than a couple of minutes into watching something
- No amenity kit, not that it matters, theres no fooling anyone with this 'J' product offering ... its a rather poor Y+ at best.

- Food was good, though uninspired.
- Theres no menu, so the attendant has to state and re-state the menu options to everyone - and the 737 is a noisy beast so I observed the poor attendant having to go over this again and again, not only with me.
- Drinks are ok, but again, no menu, so when you're asked what you want to drink you have to ask what they have loaded and then ask again because - well - its hard to hear.

It was an evening flight so after dinner service all my neighbours tried to settle in and the lights were dimmed - and there started the great squirm. These seats are a lot bigger than in Y, for sure, but massively uncomfortable. Everyone is squirming about and scrunching themselves up into balls with varying levels of success. There is virtually no recline in either Y or J.

Frankly, it was a shocking flight and I won't be doing that again.

Its certainly true that nothing much has changed in the last few years, those things that have changed are worse. I stopped flying 737 J a long time before VA1 collapsed and used to carefully choose the transcon A330's which were a much _much_ better proposition, even in Y. THose are gone now, presumably forever on VA.

QF is still flying 330's transcon now and then. Have to be careful and theres always the possibility of them changing the plane on you, but at least there is some hope, with careful planning. A lot more expensive in $$ on the QF metal of course but if you do manage to score the 330 then its worthwhile.
I agree with much of what you say but QF 330 more recently for me was a flat bed 330 with no pillow or blanket and not great food and indifferent CC. I've also often had QF 330 flights changed to B737. It's a lottery.
 
I agree with much of what you say but QF 330 more recently for me was a flat bed 330 with no pillow or blanket and not great food and indifferent CC. I've also often had QF 330 flights changed to B737. It's a lottery.

IME QF hasn't changed in their service levels for at least 20 years - I've got low expectations and even those are rarely met :) This is most of the reason I threw in my lot with VA1. Domestically, the A330 transcons were perfect. The points or $$$ cost for a J seat wasn't ever cheap but presented as a realistic option to Y.

Pre covid I did PER-BNE on QF J with points and it was pleasant enough on the A330. Again, low expectations but the hard product was fine. I'm not really that happy to play the lottery though and paying a premium for QF as you always have to, even now, and ending up in a 737 just won't work for me.

Looks like work related domestic travel might be over for me and I suspect domestic tourism will not be enticing. I'm not going to pay champagne pricing for beer service. I note that AUS hotels of the hilton/doubletree/marriot variety seem to have nearly doubled in price since pre-covid times and with domestic flights from PER hovering around $800-1000 return on nothing but worn out noisy 737's I'm finding international trips beckoning :) :) :)
 

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