A320 Vs 737 Which Is Safer

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Kinda hard to compare the original 737's (pre classic and next gen) with the A320 series. Overall I would say that both are very safe aircraft and I have no qualms about flying on either.
 
737 8,263 built (since 1966) 158 hull-loss, 4,293 fatalities
320 family 6,452 built (since 1986) 23 hull-loss, 1,092 fatalities
 
Channel nine news Tassie had an item on the A320 safety.One of the 3 incidents they showed was the miracle on the Hudson.
That showed how unsafe the A320 is because...?:shock::confused:
 
I think the A320 vs B737 comparison is missing the real issues.

The build quality is not necessarily the issue

The more important issues are:

Airplane-pilot interface and design philosophy surrounding pilot authority (who is trusted more - pilot or computer)
Quality of pilot experience/hours
Quality of airline regulation
Culture within an airline
Which aircraft is technically better suited to a LCC model and low hours/experience pilot?


Personally I believe all things being equal, while an aircraft will have a better takeoff-landing ratio when experience quality pilots are in the coughpit - the quality of the pilot in an Airbus coughpit is much more important/relevant.

Qantas had several Airbus incidents A380, A330. These aircraft had very experienced pilots who most likely saved the day.

I think Airbus design philosophy has enabled low cost culture airlines employing low experience pilots to fly "safely", but once the flight deviates from normal they are in trouble. High complexity airplanes require highly competent pilots. Unfortunately the opposite is prevalent.
 
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Modern aircrafts that are well maintained and flown by pilots with the right training and experience are extremely safe. Doing such a comparison is like trying to see whether Ford or Holden would crash less without taking account of who's behind the wheel or if the vehicle was serviced properly.
 
Channel nine news Tassie had an item on the A320 safety.One of the 3 incidents they showed was the miracle on the Hudson.
That showed how unsafe the A320 is because...?:shock::confused:
o_O How does bird strike destroying both engines followed by a controlled ditching into the river while all the aircraft systems did and worked as they were meant to mean "unsafe"?

The only thing about airbus aircraft in general that I could think of as "unsafe" (other then the pilot tube issue which should have been fixed by now) is the computers doing something that the pilots don't want it to do or don't know about, or the computer preventing the pilots from doing something they need to.
 
Channel nine news Tassie had an item on the A320 safety.One of the 3 incidents they showed was the miracle on the Hudson.
That showed how unsafe the A320 is because...?:shock::confused:

I saw that as well, was a bit ridiculous.

I noticed before that they even showed what appeared to be an AF tail floating in the water... which wouldn't be an A320, unless they've also had an accident involving that family of aircraft?
 
I saw that as well, was a bit ridiculous.

I noticed before that they even showed what appeared to be an AF tail floating in the water... which wouldn't be an A320, unless they've also had an accident involving that family of aircraft?

AF were the first operator to crash an A320 at Habshein, but that wasn't over water.
 
AF were the first operator to crash an A320 at Habshein, but that wasn't over water.

I recall the forest video... they were clearly showing the AF447 tail section, when that's completely missing the point.

As I remarked to chicka, it's all sensationalist!
 
over reliance on automation seems to be a constant theme in a lot of these airbus incidents, the cough hits the fan and pilots cannot aviate in the old fashioned way without shutting down half the computers on the plane. its a can of worms really i guess in that airlines want planes that fly themselves as much as possible they can minimise crewing and maintenance costs.

LCCs are a whole other layer of complexity on the top of that whereby cost cutting pressure in safety administration and maximising pilot flying time add additional "swiss cheese" holes into the mix.
 
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I recall the forest video... they were clearly showing the AF447 tail section, when that's completely missing the point.

As I remarked to chicka, it's all sensationalist!

Not unlike the media to sensationalise events is it (I wish they would leave Ben Cousins alone to fix his addictions but that's off topic).
 
Whilst the debate about A320 safety has now disappeared again due to new evidence, I'd still thought I'd throw my hat into the ring.

Which is safer? Yes the A320 (like virtually all modern Airbus planes) is perhaps a little too dumbed down and designed so a unskilled person could fly it, and there are arguments that the computer has too much control and the pilot not enough, the fact remains that we're still talking about something where the odds of being involved in an incident are sitting around the same level of odds as getting a life changing lottery win. So unless 0.00001% chances are something that scare you then chances are no matter which manufacturer you chose to fly, you will be fine.

Whilst there are certainly first year students now flying for airlines which perhaps don't have the same safety culture as some other airlines, there is a reason why we typically hear about every major airliner crash involving loss of life. It's because it is such a rare event, and the odds of a plane having the same number of landings as takeoffs are so high that we hear of every event, especially if Australians are involved.

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Perhaps a better question should be directed towards the media when an event like this happens. Did the media report the event appropriately and without bias / sensationalism, and furthermore was the experts they spoke to actual experts or just those looking for their 15 minutes of fame?

I think the thing that annoys me the most about reporting of air incidents is the fact that they feel a single incident can be front page news for the next week, and they do it by rolling out unqualified person after unqualified person to give their opinion. I've lost count of the number of inaccuracies which are typically sprouted by such people, from battery life lengths on black boxes to basic details about how a plane flies being wrong (and countered by the 10 other experts interviewed in the next days edition whom state the previous article was full of ____).

What I would love is some guidelines given to the media on how to responsibly cover air accidents. Some basic training given so that when you have an expert telling you how a black box works you know that the battery life is required to be at least 1 month for certification purposes (and not 7 days as one MH370 article attempted to state). I'd love it if media companies where given lists of actual professionals in the fields, actual people with qualifications whom can either reassure the flying public that it's actually a really rare event (like hack did last week when they got an actual pilot on to speak with them) / qualified engineers whom can actually tell you about the various parts / actual air accident investigators whom actually have experience investigating incidents.

Of course all the time that they have wanna be's throwing themselves at the media, and all the time that they are not sued for sprouting misinformation (or the amount they are sued remains less than the advertising revenue brought in), and all the time they have people whom really don't care about accuracy, provided there is a decently sized death toll, they will continue turning out trash.

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Perhaps a better question should be directed towards the media when an event like this happens. Did the media report the event appropriately and without bias / sensationalism, and furthermore was the experts they spoke to actual experts or just those looking for their 15 minutes of fame?
Does the media ever do that, on any topic?
 
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