A tale of woe... when a minor booking error results in missing out on 60 SCs

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bigbadbyrnes

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Fellow members,

I ask for your understanding but also your feedback. I feel I have a right to consider myself hard-done-by, but let this be a lesson (a lesson most of you won't need due to your extensive experience) to all observers.

A co-worker and I were umm'ing and aah'ing about forking out, at our own expense, to upgrade ourselves to premium economy on a flight from MEL->OOL solely to take advantage of the double SC offer.

On 20 October we had originally booked OOL->MEL->OOL flying on the 7 Nov, returning 10 Nov on Saver fares. On the 4 Nov, we decided to double up on our SCs by cancelling the flight (at a forfeit of $60 per person, $120 in total, plus the big difference between Saver fares and PE) and rebooking the same flight PE - so we were forking out a few hundred each to get 120SCs instead of the standard 15.

That was fine for the flight down, 120 SCs rattled through, brilliant, and then after thinking hard about it, we decided mid week to do the same again for our returning flight.

At even greater expense to us (because of the greater difference between our existing Saver fare booking and PE, plus the $120 cancellation fee again) we set about getting ourselves re-ticketed. We changed our booking to an earlier flight flying PE via Sydney and started rubbing our financial wound with the balm of the prospect of 120SCs and gold status before the end of the month.

Alas... when we re-ticketed our flights, we 'changed' the booking, rather than cancelling it and booking it again. The costs involved are identical, but neither of us realised that changing the flight, even to such a great extent and at exactly the same expense, would not create a new 'booking date' event which we needed to earn the double SCs.

I saw the standard 60SCs awarded to my Velocity account yesterday, and immediately made contact with Velocity via phone to see if I could get this cleared up. The second I saw the 60SCs rattle through, I referred to our new itinerary we were issued when we modified our flight and my heart sank as I then saw and realised the booking date was still back on 20 October. I pleaded with the Velocity rep but to no avail, being repeatedly referred back to the terms and conditions, which I acknowledged was technically valid, but I felt (and still feel) that I had grounds enough to have this reviewed and for special consideration to be shown.

I had a few lounge passes sitting in my Velocity account having made silver a while back that we were going to use anyway, so really the only reason we forked out was for the SCs, and we made an innocent error in our effort to rebook our flight and have been denied 60SCs.

Is this fair and reasonable? The Velocity rep invited me to write in on the Velocity feedback page on their website if I had further queries - would anyone like to express an opinion on any of this? Is it worth while writing in? Is this fair enough?

The real sting is we fly OOL->MEL->OOL in PE again next week (getting double SCs for one of those flights, and thats all fine and dandy) and I would have made Gold status by the end of next week before an international flight to USA in December and I was really hoping to make use of some Gold benefits like lounge access in the Air NZ lounge and others in the US.

I hope this is at least entertaining for others to read.

CB

Velocity Silver, for now.
 
That really sucks, unfortunately I don't think you are going to get anywhere.

If it makes you feel any better I missed out on many, many more SCs when a travel agent modified a booking rather than rebooking on a new PNR during the last QF double SC promo, even though I specifically asked for a new PNR, and even though the original "booking" wasn't actually paid for yet, and was a completely different routing to the final booking.
 
Fair? I suppose so, the T&Cs say so etc....

But it's very irritating that you, as a passenger must know the technical difference between cancellation and change especially as the costs for doing both are exactly the same. Is there a point to being able to 'change' a booking when there is no advantage to doing so over a cancellation? All I can say is I sympathize. So many time a companies internal systems have cost me extra and it sucks. :evil:
 
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So there really isn't anything that can be done?

To be honest, I'm pretty devastated that this simple error, has resulted in my missing out on Gold status before heading through USA. Access to the international lounges would have made an enormous difference to the value of my gold membership.

I'm almost prepared to do some SC runs using my 2for1 on the Flyer CC if anyone wants to split a bill flying from BNE or OOL to anywhere and back.

Heartbreaking stuff.
 
Is there a point to being able to 'change' a booking when there is no advantage to doing so over a cancellation?


Certainly - imagine you're in the opposite situation and have a double-SC compliant booking but, for example, want to move your return flight by an hour. If you had to cancel and rebook you'd probably be a bit miffed about not picking up the extra SCs!


I actually explored this a bit yesterday when considering changing flight times on one of my double-SC eligible flights. Looking at a previous booking where I had made a time change (which I have not yet flown, and isn't eligible for double SCs), I was able to see that the 'reservation date' never changed, even when I changed flight times (on a flexi fare) one month after the original booking. Based on that discovery, I was confident in changing the flight time for my double-SC eligible flight and the reservation date for that booking still shows as 01 Nov.
 
Alas... when we re-ticketed our flights, we 'changed' the booking, rather than cancelling it and booking it again. The costs involved are identical, but neither of us realised that changing the flight, even to such a great extent and at exactly the same expense, would not create a new 'booking date' event which we needed to earn the double SCs.
This can happen to any of us. Why do airlines, and other businesses, continue to have anomalies, technicalities, in their systems that are there to confuse people rather than assist?

Personally I believe that you should receive credit for premium economy as you "actually" paid for premium economy rather than economy as was stated on the original booking. Whether you changed or cancelled and re-booked should have no impact regardless of what rubbish is included in the terms and conditions.

Have you tried getting in touch with one of the VA reps on AFF?
 
Personally I believe that you should receive credit for premium economy as you "actually" paid for premium economy rather than economy as was stated on the original booking.

I saw the standard 60SCs awarded to my Velocity account yesterday, and immediately made contact with Velocity via phone to see if I could get this cleared up.

He did get the scs for premium economy. He just didn't get the double scs (120 as opposed to 60).

Why do airlines, and other businesses, continue to have anomalies, technicalities, in their systems that are there to confuse people rather than assist?
The promotion stated: Book between x-y dates and travel between x-y dates to get the double scs.
OP cancelled the original booking for the onward journey and made a new booking, which made him eligible for the promotion. However, he did not do so for the return booking which made him ineligible for the promotion. I feel sorry for the OP, but I certainly don't see any confusing anomalies and technicalities with the promotion and its t's & c's.
 
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