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Ditto - couldn't have said it better myselfThat is Gold, pure Gold. You owe me a new keyboard @Captain Halliday, I just laughed at a most inopportune time and spewed tea all over my old favourite
Always cross check Google, who would have thought.
I loved my 2 trips to Japan and can't wait to take my family back...skiing will be high on the priority list.
More please...awaiting the next installment. Just give me time to get another cuppa though
But I reckon MrsH will be visiting the Japanese version of Bunnings to buy some lengths of gaffer tape. Newspaper reports will simply say man found bound up in gaffer tape, attached to a rubbish bin in the street with a note stapled to his forehead saying "... Google this!!!!..."
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Kobe
We’d been advised by several people not to bother with Kobe. “Too industrial” they told us, “nothing worth seeing”.
I disagree and enjoyed it more than either Osaka or Kyoto.
The waterfront does have an industrial feel and retains a sense of being a working port. However, it’s an easy walk, especially for those with knee problems.
It has a nice mix of old and new architecture with the striking red port tower the centrepiece.
The bridge and Ferris wheel complete the trio of big red structures.
It was sad to see this sunken old wooden boat.
I assuming it sank during Typhoon Jebi a week or so before we arrived.
I’m hoping it wasn’t scuttled by this sub which we saw leaving the port.
We’d been advised by several people not to bother with Kobe. “Too industrial” they told us, “nothing worth seeing”.
I disagree and enjoyed it more than either Osaka or Kyoto.
The waterfront does have an industrial feel and retains a sense of being a working port. However, it’s an easy walk, especially for those with knee problems.
It has a nice mix of old and new architecture with the striking red port tower the centrepiece.
The bridge and Ferris wheel complete the trio of big red structures.
It was sad to see this sunken old wooden boat.
I assuming it sank during Typhoon Jebi a week or so before we arrived.
I’m hoping it wasn’t scuttled by this sub which we saw leaving the port.
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When a cable car is actually a tram
Next stop, some of the hills and villages to the west of Kobe and Osaka.
First we decided to go up the Rokko Cable Car, which is more like a tram than a cable car IMH_O
For those who’ve been to Hong Kong it’s very similar to the one up to Victoria Peak.
We decided to sit in the lower cabin and watch this film crew go about their work.
It looked like they were filming a Japanese version of Getaway.
Reaching the top we discovered another TV crew.
And the view.
Osaka to the left:
Kobe to the right:
For those interested in going, the Rokko Cable Car can easily be done ex. Osaka which is perhaps why we were advised against Kobe.
From the top of the cable car/tram we took a short bus ride to Rokko village.
We looked through a few shops and at the cafe discovered that technology has done away with another job.
Rather than place your order with a human, you just use what is effectively a vending machine.
Once you’ve paid you take your ticket to the counter and collect your order.
You’ll see that it’s only in Japanese. So rather than play cafe bingo, we ate the snacks we’d packed for the day.
The we continued on to the next mode of transport which was also called something it wasn’t.
Next stop, some of the hills and villages to the west of Kobe and Osaka.
First we decided to go up the Rokko Cable Car, which is more like a tram than a cable car IMH
_OFor those who’ve been to Hong Kong it’s very similar to the one up to Victoria Peak.
We decided to sit in the lower cabin and watch this film crew go about their work.
It looked like they were filming a Japanese version of Getaway.
Reaching the top we discovered another TV crew.
And the view.
Osaka to the left:
Kobe to the right:
For those interested in going, the Rokko Cable Car can easily be done ex. Osaka which is perhaps why we were advised against Kobe.
From the top of the cable car/tram we took a short bus ride to Rokko village.
We looked through a few shops and at the cafe discovered that technology has done away with another job.
Rather than place your order with a human, you just use what is effectively a vending machine.
Once you’ve paid you take your ticket to the counter and collect your order.
You’ll see that it’s only in Japanese. So rather than play cafe bingo, we ate the snacks we’d packed for the day.
The we continued on to the next mode of transport which was also called something it wasn’t.
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And I hope that's not Mrs H's backside in the port photo
Well that had me scrambling to check. I hadn’t even noticed.
Thankfully it’s not Mrs H.
Just someone who obviously doesn’t appreciate my photography skills.
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Well that had me scrambling to check. I hadn’t even noticed.
Thankfully it’s not Mrs H.
Just someone who obviously doesn’t appreciate my photography skills.
Yeah! I know you were photographing the 'Ferris wheel', right? You ol' dog you
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When a ropeway is actually a cable car
From the top of Rokko Cable Car (tram) we took a short bus ride to Rokko village and looked in a few shops. The usual tourist stuff.
From Rokko village you can take a return trip down on the cable car which is actually a tram, or you can go down the other side of the mountain on the Rokko-Arima Ropeway which is actually a cable car.
Confused yet?
This was another google navigation fail. However, the nice man selling tickets at the bottom of the Rokko Cable car (tram) had just enough English to explain it to us and so we’d opted for one way tickets.
So we boarded the ropeway (cable car) and discovered nice views over forested areas.
From above I couldn’t tell if some of the trees had been damaged by typhoon Jebi, or had died for other reasons.
In heavy forest there was no hint of the typhoon:
Yet on ridge lines or exposed areas there were trees that looked like this:
After around ten minutes of gradual descent, things suddenly became steep and we were headed down to a village called Arima Onsen.
It had pretty paved streets and in winter is basically a ski village.
While the snow was long gone, plenty of water was still flowing in the stream that runs right through town.
By now it was early afternoon, but there was still time to travel on one more confusingly named form of hillside transportation.
From the top of Rokko Cable Car (tram) we took a short bus ride to Rokko village and looked in a few shops. The usual tourist stuff.
From Rokko village you can take a return trip down on the cable car which is actually a tram,
or you can go down the other side of the mountain on the Rokko-Arima Ropeway which is actually a cable car. Confused yet?
This was another google navigation fail. However, the nice man selling tickets at the bottom of the Rokko Cable car (tram) had just enough English to explain it to us and so we’d opted for one way tickets.
So we boarded the ropeway (cable car) and discovered nice views over forested areas.
From above I couldn’t tell if some of the trees had been damaged by typhoon Jebi, or had died for other reasons.
In heavy forest there was no hint of the typhoon:
Yet on ridge lines or exposed areas there were trees that looked like this:
After around ten minutes of gradual descent, things suddenly became steep and we were headed down to a village called Arima Onsen.
It had pretty paved streets and in winter is basically a ski village.
While the snow was long gone, plenty of water was still flowing in the stream that runs right through town.
By now it was early afternoon, but there was still time to travel on one more confusingly named form of hillside transportation.
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When a ropeway is actually a cable car
From the top of Rokko Cable Car (tram) we took a short bus ride to Rokko village and looked in a few shops. The usual tourist stuff.
From Rokko village you can take a return trip down on the cable car which is actually a tram,
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Confused yet?
This was another google navigation fail. However, the nice man selling tickets at the bottom of the Rokko Cable car (tram) had just enough English to explain it to us and so we’d opted for one way tickets.
So we boarded the ropeway (cable car) and discovered nice views over forested areas.
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From above I couldn’t tell if some of the trees had been damaged by typhoon Jebi, or had died for other reasons.
In heavy forest there was no hint of the typhoon:
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Yet on ridge lines or exposed areas there were trees that looked like this:
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After around ten minutes of gradual descent, things suddenly became steep and we were headed down to a village called Arima Onsen.
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It had pretty paved streets and in winter is basically a ski village.
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While the snow was long gone, plenty of water was still flowing in the stream that runs right through town.
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By now it was early afternoon, but there was still time to travel on one more confusingly named form of hillside transportation.
I think @BAM1748 is our resident train guru, perhaps you can have a little chat about trains and plains and what goes where up there...
or down there....or goes anywhere...on rails or cables, or wings....Or maybe Mrs H could take over? Seeing as she is laid up and all...
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When a Ropeway is actually a Gondola
Determined to find a correctly named attraction, we decided to visit the Nunobiki Ropeway and Herb Garden.
Having clocked quite some distance walking over the previous few days we took the subway to get there.
It looks like every other subway on the planet, so no need for a pic.
At Nunobiki you can either buy a return ticket, or a one way ticket and walk down.
I thought it might be nice to walk down.
However, after a short family discussion and I was dispatched to buy return tickets.
The Ropeway (gondola) also has a mid-station, so another option is to buy the return ticket but walk from the top to the mid-station.
Be aware the mid-station to the bottom is the steepest. It has fewer herbs to view, but does have the waterfall.
You get a good view of the waterfall from the gondola.
Unlike most gondolas there is also a safety net.
This was worrying and reassuring at the same time.
At the top, the view is good but limited by the trees.
You can also see the greenhouses. As a point of reference these are fairly close to the gondola mid station.
We then took a walk in the small, but pretty Rose Symphony Garden...
...where we saw bees doing bee business...
Before finding a spot round the back with a slightly better view of Osaka.
And a small garden on the upper deck overlooking the food terrace.
There were also two areas inside with rows and rows of bottles where you could smell the various scents.
You could sniff lines and lines of stuff.
Er, that came out wrong.
What I mean is they had a very big range with common fragrances like lavender, right through to things I’d never hear of like Juniper Berry.
I wonder if it’s good for a busted knee?
What I liked was that each scent was coded so you could go to the gift shop to purchase, but you could also skip the gift shop completely.
I like when there’s no hard-sell or forced gift shop walk to get to the exit.
Having smelt descents, it was time for the descent.
Determined to find a correctly named attraction, we decided to visit the Nunobiki Ropeway and Herb Garden.
Having clocked quite some distance walking over the previous few days we took the subway to get there.
It looks like every other subway on the planet, so no need for a pic.
At Nunobiki you can either buy a return ticket, or a one way ticket and walk down.
I thought it might be nice to walk down.
However, after a short family discussion and I was dispatched to buy return tickets.
The Ropeway (gondola) also has a mid-station, so another option is to buy the return ticket but walk from the top to the mid-station.
Be aware the mid-station to the bottom is the steepest. It has fewer herbs to view, but does have the waterfall.
You get a good view of the waterfall from the gondola.
Unlike most gondolas there is also a safety net.
This was worrying and reassuring at the same time.
At the top, the view is good but limited by the trees.
You can also see the greenhouses. As a point of reference these are fairly close to the gondola mid station.
We then took a walk in the small, but pretty Rose Symphony Garden...
...where we saw bees doing bee business...
Before finding a spot round the back with a slightly better view of Osaka.
And a small garden on the upper deck overlooking the food terrace.
There were also two areas inside with rows and rows of bottles where you could smell the various scents.
You could sniff lines and lines of stuff.
Er, that came out wrong.
What I mean is they had a very big range with common fragrances like lavender, right through to things I’d never hear of like Juniper Berry.
I wonder if it’s good for a busted knee?
What I liked was that each scent was coded so you could go to the gift shop to purchase, but you could also skip the gift shop completely.
I like when there’s no hard-sell or forced gift shop walk to get to the exit.
Having smelt descents, it was time for the descent.
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What I mean is they had a very big range with common fragrances like lavender, right through to things I’d never hear of like Juniper Berry.
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I wonder if it’s good for a busted knee?
Jumping on board this TR as Madame Deputy Principal, Ms 15yo and M-I-L are planning a trip to Japan next year instead of schoolies...
You've never heard of juniper berries? They're one of the main flavourings of gin so some of that along with some other botanicals in some vodka with tonic would probably do wonders for a knee (or at least it would for my wife).
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It probably needed a sarcasm emoji. But the reference to healing the knee should have given it away.You've never heard of juniper berries? They're one of the main flavourings of gin so some of that along with some other botanicals in some vodka with tonic would probably do wonders for a knee (or at least it would for my wife).
I'm enjoying your trip report from Japan very much. I was there last month, used the Rail Pass, located hotels near railway stations with assistance from Google maps and so on. I hope your travels continue safely and happily.And just to prove how great minds can think alike, I was very impressed with your photo of the Shinkansen trainsets in their stabling area. It can only be coincidental that I took almost exactly the same photo, from the fast-moving Shinkansen.
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The one time I didn’t feel like walking...
After the rose garden we began our descent.
Having purchased return tickets for the gondola, you’ll never guess what we did?
It was a lovely stroll with a huge variety of herbs, spices, fruit and vegetables all growing on the hillside.
It looked and smelled amazing.
About half way to the gondola mid station we reached the hammock garden.
I didn’t wait for an invitation.
Before I popped my hat on for a snooze, this was the view from my hammock.
There was a gentle breeze that brought with it subtle smells of various parts of the garden.
In trees all around, birds were chirping and you could hear the sounds of trickling water.
I could easily have nodded off and called it quits for the afternoon.
But in the most remarkable turn of events, Mrs H wanted to keep walking.
Just before the gondola mid station we reached the greenhouse and a terraced area with a cafe/bar.
The view from here was much better as were we slightly closer to Osaka but also there were fewer trees in the way.
As if right on cue the speakers on the terrace burst to life with @drron belting out a bit of Steelers Wheel.
Osaka to the left
Kobe to the right
To the left of the terrace is a herbal foot bath with room for about six people at a time.
It was warm and relaxing.
I’ll spare you the pic of my hairy legs. You’re welcome.
But I will share the view.
Technically the herbal footbath is free.
You can buy a small towel to dry your feet for 100 yen or about $1.20 Australian.
We did so, and figured it’s basically a gold coin donation system.
About 150 metres further on is the gondola mid station.
Not wanting to completely waste the return ticket, we rode the gondola the remainder of the way down.
The afternoon breeze cleared some of the smog.
The sun had begun to fall behind the mountains casting shadows on the waterfall.
Which I realised is actually two waterfalls.
You can also see the viewing platform near the lower, smaller waterfall.
After the rose garden we began our descent.
Having purchased return tickets for the gondola, you’ll never guess what we did?
It was a lovely stroll with a huge variety of herbs, spices, fruit and vegetables all growing on the hillside.
It looked and smelled amazing.
About half way to the gondola mid station we reached the hammock garden.
I didn’t wait for an invitation.
Before I popped my hat on for a snooze, this was the view from my hammock.
There was a gentle breeze that brought with it subtle smells of various parts of the garden.
In trees all around, birds were chirping and you could hear the sounds of trickling water.
I could easily have nodded off and called it quits for the afternoon.
But in the most remarkable turn of events, Mrs H wanted to keep walking.
Just before the gondola mid station we reached the greenhouse and a terraced area with a cafe/bar.
The view from here was much better as were we slightly closer to Osaka but also there were fewer trees in the way.
As if right on cue the speakers on the terrace burst to life with @drron belting out a bit of Steelers Wheel.
Osaka to the left
Kobe to the right
To the left of the terrace is a herbal foot bath with room for about six people at a time.
It was warm and relaxing.
I’ll spare you the pic of my hairy legs.
You’re welcome.But I will share the view.
Technically the herbal footbath is free.
You can buy a small towel to dry your feet for 100 yen or about $1.20 Australian.
We did so, and figured it’s basically a gold coin donation system.
About 150 metres further on is the gondola mid station.
Not wanting to completely waste the return ticket, we rode the gondola the remainder of the way down.
The afternoon breeze cleared some of the smog.
The sun had begun to fall behind the mountains casting shadows on the waterfall.
Which I realised is actually two waterfalls.
You can also see the viewing platform near the lower, smaller waterfall.
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Shout out to a few AFFers
As the waterfalls disappeared from view our attention turned to the city...
...And the rooftop helipads. @straitman
I was amazed, and disappointed, that over a two week stay in a Japan I didn’t see a single helicopter land on one of these.
On the walk back to the hotel I really wanted to look in this shop and made sure we arrived more than two hours before closing time.
I guess I wasn’t close enough!
We did drop into three bottle shops we saw during the walk.
I like discovering new and different wines.
And I’m always curious to see what Aussie drops they have and at what price.
We found this French red:
Who wants to crack a bottle when @JohnK gets a hole-in-one?
I also found this from one of my all time favourite wineries.
The 2000 Chateau Lynches Bages (~AUD240/btl if you can find it) paired with duck a l’orange remains the best meal I’ve ever had.
It was a sunny Wednesday afternoon at the Bordeaux winery in 2008, but I digress.
Sadly this bottle above isn’t their premium product and was closer to AUD40.
With four sectors in the trip to go I didn’t think it would survive that many baggage handlers, so I left it for someone else to enjoy.
We passed an Aussie restaurant.
And an Aussie shop...
It didn’t sell pies, pluggers or vegemite.
Unaustralian if you ask me.
Kobe is also getting geared up for Rugby World Cup 2019 and the promotion is very prominent.
I’m really looking forward to it.
I’m sure @Rugby is getting excited too.
Sadly I reckon I have more chance of landing on a Kobe helipad than celebrating a Wallabies World Cup win in Japan.
As the waterfalls disappeared from view our attention turned to the city...
...And the rooftop helipads. @straitman
I was amazed, and disappointed, that over a two week stay in a Japan I didn’t see a single helicopter land on one of these.
On the walk back to the hotel I really wanted to look in this shop and made sure we arrived more than two hours before closing time.
I guess I wasn’t close enough!
We did drop into three bottle shops we saw during the walk.
I like discovering new and different wines.
And I’m always curious to see what Aussie drops they have and at what price.
We found this French red:
Who wants to crack a bottle when @JohnK gets a hole-in-one?
I also found this from one of my all time favourite wineries.
The 2000 Chateau Lynches Bages (~AUD240/btl if you can find it) paired with duck a l’orange remains the best meal I’ve ever had.
It was a sunny Wednesday afternoon at the Bordeaux winery in 2008, but I digress.
Sadly this bottle above isn’t their premium product and was closer to AUD40.
With four sectors in the trip to go I didn’t think it would survive that many baggage handlers, so I left it for someone else to enjoy.
We passed an Aussie restaurant.
And an Aussie shop...
It didn’t sell pies, pluggers or vegemite.
Unaustralian if you ask me.
Kobe is also getting geared up for Rugby World Cup 2019 and the promotion is very prominent.
I’m really looking forward to it.
I’m sure @Rugby is getting excited too.
Sadly I reckon I have more chance of landing on a Kobe helipad than celebrating a Wallabies World Cup win in Japan.
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Canned clams anyone?
Back in Kobe and the port tower and nearby technology museum were lit up for the evening and looked terrific.
But it was time for tucker and we’d been recommended the seafood buffet at Fisherman’s Wharf.
Note: Fisherman’s Wharf is the name of a restaurant, not an area where the trawlers dock.
In comparison to the Sheraton a few posts back, this place was far more down market.
I failed to take any pics of the food because I was starving, but if you imagine Sizzler (remember Sizzler?) with a cold seafood buffet added, along with a hot food section, you’ll get the general idea.
There was fresh sashimi on a sushi train, prawns and Alaskan King crab legs as the cold seafood offer.
The hot food was extensive, everything from whole baked fish to a large selection of pizzas and pastas.
But strewth they had plenty of clams.
They were stacked to the ceiling, two floors high.
I found it slightly ironic there wasn’t a clam dish offered.
Back outside and the Ferris wheel was also lit up and I tried to get artistic with the half moon.
The next day we were off to Osaka and another hotel located nowhere near a train station.
So after a 14 minute ride on the Shinkansen from Kobe I was seriously questioning the need to change hotels at all.
We then switched to not one, but two different JR trains which added an hour to our trip.
And that was followed by the now infamous Halliday family suitcase hustle.
Fortunately it was only a 10 minute walk.
Which took us 15 minutes because of the knee business and the suitcases.
But we arrived at the Swissotel Osaka and were delighted to get an early checkin and an upgrade to a club room.
The view from the room.
The hotel was nice. It has a gym, 25m indoor lap pool, spa and health club. But only for clean skins:
At the end of the day we went to the bar/restaurant on L36 for our complimentary welcome drink and the lovely view. (Opposite side to our room)
Back in Kobe and the port tower and nearby technology museum were lit up for the evening and looked terrific.
But it was time for tucker and we’d been recommended the seafood buffet at Fisherman’s Wharf.
Note: Fisherman’s Wharf is the name of a restaurant, not an area where the trawlers dock.
In comparison to the Sheraton a few posts back, this place was far more down market.
I failed to take any pics of the food because I was starving, but if you imagine Sizzler (remember Sizzler?
) with a cold seafood buffet added, along with a hot food section, you’ll get the general idea.There was fresh sashimi on a sushi train, prawns and Alaskan King crab legs as the cold seafood offer.
The hot food was extensive, everything from whole baked fish to a large selection of pizzas and pastas.
But strewth they had plenty of clams.
They were stacked to the ceiling, two floors high.
I found it slightly ironic there wasn’t a clam dish offered.
Back outside and the Ferris wheel was also lit up and I tried to get artistic with the half moon.
The next day we were off to Osaka and another hotel located nowhere near a train station.
So after a 14 minute ride on the Shinkansen from Kobe I was seriously questioning the need to change hotels at all.
We then switched to not one, but two different JR trains which added an hour to our trip.
And that was followed by the now infamous Halliday family suitcase hustle.
Fortunately it was only a 10 minute walk.
Which took us 15 minutes because of the knee business and the suitcases.
But we arrived at the Swissotel Osaka and were delighted to get an early checkin and an upgrade to a club room.
The view from the room.
The hotel was nice. It has a gym, 25m indoor lap pool, spa and health club. But only for clean skins:
At the end of the day we went to the bar/restaurant on L36 for our complimentary welcome drink and the lovely view. (Opposite side to our room)
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The next day we were off to Osaka and another hotel located nowhere near a train station.
So after a 14 minute ride on the Shinkansen from Kobe I was seriously questioning the need to change hotels at all.
We then switched to not one, but two different JR trains which added an hour to our trip.
And that was followed by the now infamous Halliday family suitcase hustle.
The infamous Google search strikes again
You’re lucky you aren’t kneecapped already by Mrs H, that would have taken you much longer...she’d have beaten you easily even with her sore knee. Did you ever take her to see a doctor- the swelling should be going down by nowFortunately it was only a 10 minute walk.
Which took us 15 minutes because of the knee business and the suitcases.
Okay, that’s stunning - should have made up for the 2 JR trains and the walk
Lucky you’re not Yakuza then
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Perhaps I’ve inadvertantly given the impression that I don’t care about Mrs H’s knee.The infamous Google search strikes again
You’re lucky you aren’t kneecapped already by Mrs H, that would have taken you much longer...she’d have beaten you easily even with her sore knee. Did you ever take her to see a doctor- the swelling should be going down by now
Okay, that’s stunning - should have made up for the 2 JR trains and the walk
Lucky you’re not Yakuza then
I can assure you I consulted Dr Google
and luckily for Mrs H the prescribed treatment was in plentiful supply in Japan.I made sure Mrs H had three serves of rice per day.
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