6 Years Platinum & Lifetime Gold – Voting With My Wallet After Executive Team Apathy

[lovestotravel]

To clarify for everyone commenting this thread isn't about chasing points, fighting for upgrades, or hoping for freebies; frankly, I think points are a waste of time. I pay full cash for my international travel and the vast majority of my domestic Business Class flights. The real issue here is the systematic collapse of customer service, corporate accountability, and actual premium consistency. When you are a high-value, cash-paying customer, multi-decade loyalty means absolutely nothing on the day. High status doesn't protect you from extreme aircraft down-gauges, it doesn't stop them from stripping out seat back screens, and the automated PR templates you get from executive customer care when things go wrong are a joke. That is why I'm moving my commercial spend elsewhere

Can you let me know how the seat back screens on Virgin go for you please ?

 

[jase05]

Grass isn’t always greenery as others have said.
With VA you won’t get IFE’s and don’t have the option for flat bed seats but personally head to head on a 737 I think the VA J product is better but their call centres and resolutions are pretty ordinary these days.
I just go with whoever offers me the best price on the times and routes I want

 

[lovestotravel]

The airline industry is mostly now a race to the bottom for service and comfort. Airlines mostly compete on price instead, and the majority of customers are apathetic about poor service so there’s no incentive for airlines to do better because even their most frustrated customers keep coming back and spending more!

Yep even SQ continues to enhance it's offerings, with cheaper wine in First class that gets cheaper each year

 

[UP4014]

There is a bit of luck for everything to happen perfectly in the correct sequence for the passenger to think it's seamless.

If QF isn't meeting your expectations then you should certainly try Virgin and others, however don't be like some who say they'll never fly QF again then realize the alternatives have the same problems, bags miss a connection, food doesn't arrive to the plane in time, aircraft swap outs etc.

With the 2026 view of world airline travel, fuel pricing (even through QF hedged 70% or so of theirs through to early 2027) not flying over some countries, US FAA even suggesting sanctuary cities not be allowed international flights which is LAX, I graciously point out that a single passenger, regardless of loyalty, isn't going to the change managements focus of staying in business in the current climate over upgrades, priority boarding, priority baggage or a broken seat.

Are QF perfect, certainly not, but yes they try. We all have a few stories on how things didn't go to the plan or the seat didn't recline fully or the food choice was terrible,

Good luck with the change.

 

[offshore171]

don’t sweat the small stuff

This. From reading the OP's post, there was nothing as serious as a flight cancellation, denied boarding, racial discrimination or lost luggage.

It was an aircraft swap. That's it. These occur. Planes sometimes "go tech". Aircraft are sometimes out of position due to weather. Flights sometimes get consolidated in an oil crisis. It's part and parcel of air travel.

There’s something like 75,000 WPs out there

Yes.

If I can be honest, there's a bit of Main Character Syndrome going on, if a traveller is expecting the QF executive team to drop everything and respond to a complaint about (checks notes) aircraft swaps.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I have a feeling the OP got caught out in the recent a330 transcon swap out? This wasn’t a once off, but a permanent replacement by 737s?

In that case I’d be a bit cheesed off too! But I prolly would have made the decision to cancel, or change for a flight that was still operated by an a330.

QF include the aircraft type during the booking process, so it is obviously a selling point.

 

[offshore171]

QF include the aircraft type during the booking process, so it is obviously a selling point.

Sure, it's fair to say I'd be a bit disappointed too. Most semi-regular flyers would have experienced at aircraft swap.

It happens, but on the outrage scale, it's at the lower end. An aircraft swap, for a flight that otherwise runs to schedule is far preferable to an outright cancellation, a boarding denial, lost luggage etc.

Qantas is pretty clear in conditions of carriage about aircraft swaps, and I'd imagine almost all other airlines have similar terms

The specific aircraft type and seat configuration are subject to change without notice due to operational, technical, or scheduling requirements.

I just don't think it's realistic to expect the QF executive team to treat this as a 5 Alarm Fire.

 

[Daver6]

Personally I would prefer the option for something better sometimes over the guarantee of low quality all the time. In a market where the high quality product (lay flat wide-body) cannot be 100% guaranteed the only way to guarantee consistency is to get rid of the high quality product and replace it with the low quality one (narrow-body recliner).

Even if regardless of what's delivered you're paying for the higher quality product all the time? You wouldn't feel slightly miffed when the lower quality one is delivered?

 

[stm1sydney]

The best thing about gaining QF LTG is never having to fly QF again.

 

[stm1sydney]

Gurl... SQ is not any better. Plane swaps just... happen.

I've flown SQ many times, and never had a plane swap. QF do it deliberately and consistently on PER/eastcoast.

 

[Fatcat]

It can cost significantly less to qualify as QF WP than SQ PPS, PPS doesnt give you F lounge access, WP does. The only real benefit of PPS is better award seat access which is actually a pretty decent perk, however it probably evens out with QF offering classic reward seat requests. One World lounges are generally far better than Star Alliance offerings. I know QFF has plenty of issues but WP trumps PPS in my experience and by a big margin. IMHO premium cabins are better on SQ but QF isnt terrible. QF WP is actually a decent offering at (if you take advanatge of DSC promos) a very low cost compared to PPS.

The thing is, it is also possible to qualify for P1 for less spend than PPS. and there is no comparison between the two at those levels. So if you compare the costs/spend vs benefits, QFF is actually a better program. Cant comment on Solitaire vs P1 however...

 

[mviy]

The best thing about gaining QF LTG is never having to fly QF again.

Assuming you are retired or have no work travel or your employer does not mandate flying QF. Nearly all my travel is self funded leisure travel, but what work travel I do have is on QF.

 

[kpro]

I've flown SQ many times, and never had a plane swap. QF do it deliberately and consistently on PER/eastcoast.

My grandma had a plane swap on SQ and got downgraded from PE to Y. May not be common but it was not the best experience for a senior.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It can cost significantly less to qualify as QF WP than SQ PPS, PPS doesnt give you F lounge access, WP does. The only real benefit of PPS is better award seat access which is actually a pretty decent perk, however it probably evens out with QF offering classic reward seat requests. One World lounges are generally far better than Star Alliance offerings. I know QFF has plenty of issues but WP trumps PPS in my experience and by a big margin. IMHO premium cabins are better on SQ but QF isnt terrible. QF WP is actually a decent offering at (if you take advanatge of DSC promos) a very low cost compared to PPS.

The thing is, it is also possible to qualify for P1 for less spend than PPS. and there is no comparison between the two at those levels. So if you compare the costs/spend vs benefits, QFF is actually a better program. Cant comment on Solitaire vs P1 however...

Agree… but I would add that premium cabins aren’t necessarily better on SQ in terms of the hard product. The a380 SQ has novelty value in F. But QF widebodies win hands down for business class seating, across all SQ aircraft types.

 

[Pushka]

My best experience on a Qantas flight was on the flight to Bangkok on the Finnair plane and crewed by Finnair crew and in their uniforms. Pleased that the travel restrictions via ME have been reviewed so I can book EK/QR to Europe next year. Also partner has been WP many years and LTG for a decade. Tell you something?

 

[SeatBackForward]

I'd have thought someone wanting to claim their status entitles them to more, would (based on frequent use) have an understanding of how upgrades, plane swaps, reliability, service quality with that airline is. But money talks, that's what everyone should ultimately do.