2019 Federal Election Discussion

[PJF]

...or the Economy might just upset the apple cart by then.

Yes the economy might go gangbusters and upset all the negative pollsters. Like the 95% of the Pollsters that are unsure how they got it all wrong with who was going to get first past the post in this election.

 

[coriander]

Was it Labor or the Greens who said that the election would be a referendum on climate change? The result is in.

Abbott said Victorian election would be referendum on the East-West link. TWO elections later with swings to Labor each time and Josh is still there waving money for the East-West link*. Stuff the "will of the people". We approach 5,000,000 residents with inadequate public transport and all the Libs want is more toll roads and freeways.
* (OT Is there anywhere in Europe building freeways through/under inner city areas? No, I thought not.)

 

[Quickstatus]

Yes all true but once again at the end of the day the punters still get the final say.

Did the $850k punter betting an ALP win get his early payout after the Bookies were a bit premature?

 

[PJF]

Turnbull had the option of including Abbott in his Cabinet (as Abbott graciously included Turnbull in his), but Turnbull chose to leave him on the backbench and continued running a campaign against him. As a backbencher, Abbott was totally free to speak his mind and was not bound by Cabinet solidarity. He loyally campaigned for Turnbull's election in 2016, unlike Turnbull who spent the 2010 campaigning sniping at Abbott and then as a Cabinet minister leaked like a sieve and even in his public statements continued to take pot shots.

Who is Turnbull again ???????

 

[Quickstatus]

Abbott said Victorian election would be referendum on the East-West link. TWO elections later with swings to Labor each time and Josh is still there waving money for the East-West link*. Stuff the "will of the people". We approach 5,000,000 residents with inadequate public transport and all the Libs want is more toll roads and freeways.

Agree there

 

[cove]

ABC MD has confirmed more budget cuts so there will be more redundancies.
I thought the ABC election coverage was really good on the night and we watched it in California. Antony Green was excellent.

 

[coriander]

Anyway, I've never taken a H-t-v card in my life. I'm one of those who throw the preference predictions out.

I always quietly and calmly accept a h-t-v card from each person offering one at the polling centre (a habit taught to me by my father and one I taught my sons) . Once inside the polling place I place the cards in the recycling bin.

 

[DC3]

Did the $850k punter betting an ALP win get his early payout after the Bookies were a bit premature?

Bets are still tax deductible to professional punters aren’t they? Might be one of them and write it off against the tax bill? Good if you can do it.

 

[DC3]

ABC MD has confirmed more budget cuts so there will be more redundancies.
I thought the ABC election coverage was really good on the night and we watched it in California. Antony Green was excellent.

You were lucky to hear anything about Oz in the USA. Most would have no idea, or interest. Too much entertainment in their own backyard.

 

[cove]

Yes watching the prescription drug advertisements on tv are really quite entertaining plus Judge Judy is retiring.
We have ABC radio on most days as they are fair and balanced.

 

[moa999]

Did the $850k punter betting an ALP win get his early payout after the Bookies were a bit premature?

Wasn't with Sportsbet reportedly

Sportsbet reportedly paid out $1.3m on the early payout, and another $4m on the Liberal win

 

[PJF]

Yes watching the prescription drug advertisements on tv are really quite entertaining plus Judge Judy is retiring.
We have ABC radio on most days as they are fair and balanced.

ABC 'fair and balanced' now IMO that is debatable..........

 

[DC3]

Yes the economy might go gangbusters and upset all the negative pollsters. Like the 95% of the Pollsters that are unsure how they got it all wrong with who was going to get first past the post in this election.

And then there’s the Aussie dollar. Dropped 30% against the USA since the Abbott took the reins. Might suit some, but where to now?

 

[Hvr]

ABC 'fair and balanced' now IMO that is debatable..........

They called the election for the LNP at 2130 hours, they had commentators from both sides of politics.

What else do you want? They can't all be like 7/9/10/Sky and bow and scrape to the LNP overlords as they breathlessly read their latest press release.

 

[cove]

We really watch almost zero Channel 7, 9 and 10 and Channel 2 news is reliable. I do go Ha Ha at Channel 7 claims of exclusive stories. Quite embarrassing bs that knows no limits.
The Federal elections for the House of Representatives are every 3 years so get your fund raising plans of sausage sizzles and cakes organized.
Tania P has just withdrawn from running to be Opposition Leader.
On the stock market the Big 4 banks and Medibank Private are all having a good session.

 

[Moody]

ABC 'fair and balanced' now IMO that is debatable..........

Of course it's debatable - feel free to start a new topic (or resurrect an old one). For your homework go to iView and view all available episodes of Media Watch. If you have been a long-term aficionado of Fox/News.com then take a break between each episode, or engage the services of a cult-deprogrammer to help you through the process.

 

[PJF]

They called the election for the LNP at 2130 hours, they had commentators from both sides of politics.

What else do you want? They can't all be like 7/9/10/Sky and bow and scrape to the LNP overlords as they breathlessly read their latest press release.

Its ok we have a promise from the Greens leader to create new criminal laws on certain media outlets. Wonder how thats going for him now.

We really watch almost zero Channel 7, 9 and 10 and Channel 2 news is reliable. I do go Ha Ha at Channel 7 claims of exclusive stories. Quite embarrassing bs that knows no limits.
The Federal elections for the House of Representatives are every 3 years so get your fund raising plans of sausage sizzles and cakes organized.
Tania P has just withdrawn from running to be Opposition Leader.
On the stock market the Big 4 banks and Medibank Private are all having a good session.

IMO Yes channel 2, 7, 9, 10 reliably unreliable

 

[OATEK]

After some acrimonious posts (I was particularly taken by the one referring to concentration camps as Mrsoatek had family members interned in the real thing and later exterminated some decades ago), we have now seen a return to some positive discussion. We were being told by several from the Shorten side on AFF that the sun would come up and life go on when Bill won the election. But those initial posts when they lost were not reflective of this sentiment.

As for policy directions, the Morrison government said their policy position was encapsulated in the budget and forward estimates accompanying it. There is a lot of detail about every government policy and program area. They just didn't come up with much that was new in addition, but did they really need to? There is a lot in the budget documents that should be positive for many people.

We are signed up for the Paris targets and probably meeting them, but the broader polity is being condemned for not wanting to sign up to open ended climate policy and electric cars without hearing the detail. I think most electors agree that moving away from coal is a good medium term goal, but they want some assurances about the impact on jobs, cost, replacement technologies for baseload generation etc. I expect we will remain a responsible democracy doing our bit alongside the rest of the world, but not sacrificing ourselves on the climate altar.

 

[PJF]

After some acrimonious posts (I was particularly taken by the one referring to concentration camps as Mrsoatek had family members interned in the real thing and later exterminated some decades ago), we have now seen a return to some positive discussion. We were being told by several from the Shorten side on AFF that the sun would come up and life go on when Bill won the election. But those initial posts when they lost were not reflective of this sentiment.

As for policy directions, the Morrison government said their policy position was encapsulated in the budget and forward estimates accompanying it. There is a lot of detail about every government policy and program area. They just didn't come up with much that was new in addition, but did they really need to? There is a lot in the budget documents that should be positive for many people.

We are signed up for the Paris targets and probably meeting them, but the broader polity is being condemned for not wanting to sign up to open ended climate policy and electric cars without hearing the detail. I think most electors agree that moving away from coal is a good medium term goal, but they want some assurances about the impact on jobs, cost, replacement technologies for baseload generation etc. I expect we will remain a responsible democracy doing our bit alongside the rest of the world, but not sacrificing ourselves on the climate altar.

Well said on your climate altar assessment. Who was it that called someone a coal wielding cave dweller climate denier recently.

 

[PJF]

OMG what has happened to the woke revolution in Wentworth. Looks like the punters finally woke up.