Denied seat recline on long haul

[sumthinfornuthin]

No just wanted to see who would bite, just like fishing for Barra, use the right lure and you nearly always get a strike.

 

[amaroo]

No just wanted to see who would bite, just like fishing for Barra, use the right lure and you nearly always get a strike.

Nice one....

Here I was thinking you were someone of substance......oh well, now we all know

 

[legroom]

And accidents happen when you get up and to get something out of your overhead locker too and slip

And I thought seat rockers were mean.

How wrong I was !

The intention is so criminal in nature that it is abhorrent to see it entertained.

7kg falling from 1.5m height !

With hardened wheels to boot !

I am shocked to realise there is such a rotten mentality "to get back" by those who fail to make their own case by words or statutes.

If you were so specious about your space, then do not travel in whY when every seat pitch is public knowledge.

Can't afford to travel in non-whY ?

Sure, then accept your lot in life... like all / most of us.... that it is almost always inconvenient to travel in cramped, tight condition of whY.

But don't form / entertain / promulgate thoughts of criminal intent on a decent forum like AFF.

Sickening !!

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

What's wrong with being a Barra fisherman, they are people of substance too.

Some people need to take a chill pill or get a sense of humour the whole thrust of this discussion has had a fair amount of goof hearted humour in it and if some people can't see the irony in a comment especially after a light hearted response about fishing then "No comment". Just lighten up

 

[amaroo]

What's wrong with being a Barra fisherman, they are people of substance too.

Some people need to take a chill pill or get a sense of humour the whole thrust of this discussion has had a fair amount of goof hearted humour in it and if some people can't see the irony in a comment especially after a light hearted response about fishing then "No comment". Just lighten up

Try using a smiley next time:idea:

 

[whatmeworry]

Do people recline their seats on long car rides? Even if it might inconvenience a family/friend that is behind?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Do people recline their seats on long car rides? Even if it might inconvenience a family/friend that is behind?

different dynamic, and different seating dimensions and options for increasing comfort. if passengers in the back seat could recline I'm sure they would (and indeed do in some top range European models that offer such a feature)

 

[legroom]

Hello

Just thought I would throw in my 2c here

Have you ever had the situation where once the seat belt signs are OFF, the seats in front more or less instantly are reclined into your face.... only to see the occupants leaning forward to read newspapers, left to go the loos (or worse, chatting with friends elsewhere) ?

Yes, I am for equal rights of access.

But when the reclined seats are not used for its function per se, where do you go from here ?

Personally, I have to cop it.

I see little point in raising hell to educate the thoughtless as it will be a never-ending exercise in elevating your blood pressure.

I just treat those occasions as "bad luck".

Doubt if the FAs would request them to right their seat up when they are not "using" it.

What would be your responses ?

Thanks

 

[Justinf]

I had a situation on a Delta flight from SLC to LAX where the PAX in front of me reclined as soon as the FAs were seated for take off. Sneaky. Then proceeded to leave the seat on recline even when asked by the FA to rectify it during descent. he flat out refused. The FA was out of her depth and just kept walking by. The guy in front got his wish and had his seat reclined into my space for the whole trip.
And guess what?
Just before he got up to disembark, he put the seat into the 'normal' position.
had to fight hard not to lose my ****.

 

[Mal Ware]

being tall myself I can tell you this is not about the legroom!

If you were actually tall you would not make this statement, so I suggest you are stretching the truth a little. When you sit down and the back of the seat in front is already touching your knees then it is ALL about legroom, or lack therof.

Tall people with long legs benefit from recline just like everyone else does.

A tall person can actually "benefit" from recline? You have to be trolling here.....

You need to look for potential underlying causes which have been discussed above as reasons why people don't like recliners!

Yes it is nothing to do with being squashed, it is all psychological.

So yeah - if you want to fly economy then you get what you pay for... which is the possibility of a seat reclining into you, and you being able to recline into someone else.

Sounds like you actually enjoy making someone else uncomfortable.

Do people recline their seats on long car rides? Even if it might inconvenience a family/friend that is behind?

Some on here, according to their views would happily crush granny knees because "It is a feature that is made available and therefore it should be used".

 

[blackcat20]

If you were actually tall you would not make this statement, so I suggest you are stretching the truth a little. When you sit down and the back of the seat in front is already touching your knees then it is ALL about legroom, or lack therof.

Yes it is nothing to do with being squashed, it is all psychological.

You don't even really need to be that tall to have that problem; long legs will do it! I'm not crazy-tall, but my legs are longer than a lot of people (including many men). I'll agree here, being squashed is pretty darn uncomfortable (physically and mentally...). Exit rows are your friend!

 

[Pushka]

I have long upper legs. Which means that without anyone reclining in front of me, my knees almost touch the seat back. I can't put anything in the seat pocket. So it isn't just overall height that reduces comfort. I also have a back problem and have to move when on hard seats.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

If you were actually tall you would not make this statement, so I suggest you are stretching the truth a little. When you sit down and the back of the seat in front is already touching your knees then it is ALL about legroom, or lack therof.

A tall person can actually "benefit" from recline? You have to be trolling here.....

Yes it is nothing to do with being squashed, it is all psychological.

190cm is tall. Reclining my seat means I can stretch my legs out and under the seat in front. And being able to slide down the seat a bit means my head is supported by the headrest (which still needs to be fully extended). So yes, even a tall person benefits from reclining.

 

[11sjw]

I had his seat reclined into my space

The crux of the argument right here. If my seat reclines into it I believe it is my space. No I will not recline when you are eating (or during flights <2hrs, however long haul is the topic here) nor during t/off landing. Outside of that feel free to recline into me and I'll do the same.

 

[dodgeyhack]

You don't even really need to be that tall to have that problem; long legs will do it! I'm not crazy-tall, but my legs are longer than a lot of people (including many men). I'll agree here, being squashed is pretty darn uncomfortable (physically and mentally...). Exit rows are your friend!

Doesn't the bottom of the new seats slide forward when they are reclined? So you'd have more knee room?

 

[blackcat20]

Doesn't the bottom of the new seats slide forward when they are reclined? So you'd have more knee room?

But if your seat slides forward, and the seat in front slides forward, you end up with exactly the same amount of room....?

 

[ashleyn]

I would like to try and summarise what could be a never ending thread (and increasingly boring I have to say). The points below are not my personal opinion but I think a summary of collective thoughts on this particularly topic.
1. Recline during take off, landing and meals = no no
2. Recline during short domestic trips in daytime = no (have noted the traveler who might be on the end of a long international flight)
3. Recline slowly at times other than 1 and 2 = acceptable
4. Apart from 1 and 2 and observing 3, reclining is the pax's right as the airlines provide the ability to recline
5. Physically resisting a recline is not really acceptable (see point 4)
6. Domino effect is perfectly acceptable when point 3 kicks in and finally
7. If you really can't cope with being reclined on or are long in the legs, bad back or any other affliction, buy/select an exit row, Y+ or J seat

 

[Mal Ware]

I would like to try and summarise what could be a never ending thread (and increasingly boring I have to say). The points below are not my personal opinion but I think a summary of collective thoughts on this particularly topic.
1. Recline during take off, landing and meals = no no
2. Recline during short domestic trips in daytime = no (have noted the traveler who might be on the end of a long international flight)
3. Recline slowly at times other than 1 and 2 = acceptable
4. Apart from 1 and 2 and observing 3, reclining is the pax's right as the airlines provide the ability to recline
5. Physically resisting a recline is not really acceptable (see point 4)
6. Domino effect is perfectly acceptable when point 3 kicks in and finally
7. If you really can't cope with being reclined on or are long in the legs, bad back or any other affliction, buy/select an exit row, Y+ or J seat

Not the "collective thoughts" at all.

Recline at all = no no
Recline and you will be jostled every 20 minutes and deprived sleep = yes yes

 

[mannej]

Not the "collective thoughts" at all.

Recline at all = no no
Recline and you will be jostled every 20 minutes and deprived sleep = yes yes

I would have that those views would indeed be part of the minority...

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

Be charitable......it's Christmas !!!