hints to make y class more palatable?

[aussiejohn]

Can I ask where you found the tiny sleeping bag and how much?

I'd second that - or at least I would have until I found a tiny sleeping bag, when compressed it's smaller than a poly blanket folds up and it unzips completely so you can use it as a doona. I bought it specifically for long-haul economy, and it's toasty!

I'd also warn against the "tipple" some are encouraging you to have - sleeping pills are a much better bet. Alcohol dehydrates you - and planes are dehydrating enough without it.

 

[alwoodsy]

All great stuff.
I'm off on BA next week to LHR. Using QF FF points. Paid extra for exit row seats (they only become available 2 weeks prior to departure). Hate the dude reclining in front of me. Seat Guru is great and really helpful. My general travel tip - go to the loo just before meal service. There'll be queues afterwards.
Happy flying!

 

[Rebekkap]

Can I ask where you found the tiny sleeping bag and how much?

was about $70 - was from gogogear.com but I just looked and they don't seem to have them any more but it's a lot like these ones, and about the same size: Suisse Sport Adventurer Ultra Compact Sleeping Bag New | eBay or Roman Palm 1 Ultra Compact Hooded Sleeping Bag | eBay or CARIBEE PLASMA +10 LIGHT ULTRA COMPACT SLEEPING BAG | eBay

cheers
Rebekka

 

[aussiejohn]

was about $70 - was from gogogear.com but I just looked and they don't seem to have them any more but it's a lot like these ones, and about the same size: Suisse Sport Adventurer Ultra Compact Sleeping Bag New | eBay or Roman Palm 1 Ultra Compact Hooded Sleeping Bag | eBay or CARIBEE PLASMA +10 LIGHT ULTRA COMPACT SLEEPING BAG | eBay

cheers
Rebekka

Thanks for the information Rebekka. I will check them out.

 

[letsgo]

All great stuff.
I'm off on BA next week to LHR. Using QF FF points. Paid extra for exit row seats (they only become available 2 weeks prior to departure). Hate the dude reclining in front of me. Seat Guru is great and really helpful. My general travel tip - go to the loo just before meal service. There'll be queues afterwards.
Happy flying!

My 2 cents worth: if you have plenty of time in the departure lounge (usually the case with international flights) visit the loo then. IMHO Terra Firma rules! This may alleviate the need to join the mile high dump club

 

[abstraction]

All great stuff.I'm off on BA next week to LHR. Using QF FF points. Paid extra for exit row seats (they only become available 2 weeks prior to departure). Hate the dude reclining in front of me. Seat Guru is great and really helpful. My general travel tip - go to the loo just before meal service. There'll be queues afterwards.Happy flying!

Beating the queues: If you are stuck in an ordinary aisle seat, then not many people know you can actually lift the armrest up - there's a little catch hidden underneath. So DURING the meal service when everyone is trapped in with their trays, you can slide out and take your pick of the loos without any queue.

 

[tuapekastar]

Beating the queues: If you are stuck in an ordinary aisle seat, then not many people know you can actually lift the armrest up - there's a little catch hidden underneath. So DURING the meal service when everyone is trapped in with their trays, you can slide out and take your pick of the loos without any queue.

So true abstraction. I utilise this all the time when in Y (which is more often my travel class than not) - and not just at meal times - and it makes egress/ingress just so much easier. I cannot recall ever having seen anyone else flip that armrest up (though doubtless some do).

 

[abstraction]

So true abstraction. I utilise this all the time when in Y (which is more often my travel class than not) - and not just at meal times - and it makes egress/ingress just so much easier. I cannot recall ever having seen anyone else flip that armrest up (though doubtless some do).

That's because you and i are the stuff of genius.

 

[brucek]

All great stuff.
I'm off on BA next week to LHR. Using QF FF points. Paid extra for exit row seats (they only become available 2 weeks prior to departure). Hate the dude reclining in front of me. Seat Guru is great and really helpful. My general travel tip - go to the loo just before meal service. There'll be queues afterwards.
Happy flying!

The one big problem I have with airlines selling exit row seating, or allocating them to loyalty and longe members is I frequently observe many of these people are, in my view, the last pax I would want to have to be reliant on to assist in a real emergency. I say this as a CPL holder, that when the proverbial hits the fan you want fit, competent, sound mind, able people to be in exit row seats. Not those seated there simply becuase of their ability to pay or their FF/lounge membership status.

It erks me like you wouldn't believe when I say pax reading during thre pre-flight safety briefing. To be blunt, the wankers that do this are putting themselves and all other pax on the flight in jepody. Sure, exist row seating is a good way to bear cattle class, however there is a bigger issue, and it's called safety. A matter many airlines demonsterably forget. Having said that, I proffer that many exist row pax would go to water in they had to enact their responsibilities in a real emergency.

 

[TonyHancock]

SKINS recovery leggings are awesome. They are like a pair of long stockings, but not too tight, breathable and cover only part of the foot. Easily worn under pants - they work an absolute charm. I wear them during a long flight (night or day), and then (importantly) that night to bed. Jet lag is eliminated and on night flights I seem to sleep much better. Not sure how they work - but try them.

Note - everyone laughs when I tell them - but I'm the one powering through the next day.

Gonna try Skins, ordered them direct.

I'd second that - or at least I would have until I found a tiny sleeping bag, when compressed it's smaller than a poly blanket folds up and it unzips completely so you can use it as a doona. I bought it specifically for long-haul economy, and it's toasty!

Bought one on ebay for MrsH

The one big problem I have with airlines selling exit row seating, or allocating them to loyalty and longe members is I frequently observe many of these people are, in my view, the last pax I would want to have to be reliant on to assist in a real emergency.

Have we met? (hic)

 

[Justchecking]

There's nothing to say that someone who's paid to sit there or maintains their lounge access status is any less capable or willing than anyone else in an emergency. Very few people, paid up or not, give a toss about the safety aspect of sitting in exit rows but all of them will nod and say they are in order to sit there. There is no way at all to tell if someone will fold or not when faced with an emergency.

 

[brucek]

There's nothing to say that someone who's paid to sit there or maintains their lounge access status is any less capable or willing than anyone else in an emergency. Very few people, paid up or not, give a toss about the safety aspect of sitting in exit rows but all of them will nod and say they are in order to sit there. There is no way at all to tell if someone will fold or not when faced with an emergency.

And there' nothing to say they are in fact capable either. It's all about risk management, not ones staus. Can I gather from your comment that you are comfortable flying with such potential tossers in exist rows then? Pse tell you you aren't and if so why you ap[pear to be ta,ing such a blase' approach to this?

 

[TonyHancock]

And there' nothing to say they are in fact capable either. It's all about risk management, not ones staus. Can I gather from your comment that you are comfortable flying with such potential tossers in exist rows then? Pse tell you you aren't and if so why you ap[pear to be ta,ing such a blase' approach to this?

Let's hope airlines don't base exit row allocation upon typing capability.

 

[Justchecking]

And there' nothing to say they are in fact capable either. It's all about risk management, not ones staus. Can I gather from your comment that you are comfortable flying with such potential tossers in exist rows then? Pse tell you you aren't and if so why you ap[pear to be ta,ing such a blase' approach to this?

Please tell me that your irritation at said tossers actually makes you any safer on an aircraft, given your power of influence in this situation is nil. I'm ok with it because I understand that me being not ok with it has no influence on the outcome. Unless you intend to lobby the powers that be to change the system, getting all irritated serves no useful purpose.

 

[Justchecking]

I also don't believe that holding status automatically makes you a tosser, or any more likely to be a tosser than anyone else.

 

[Fantic125]

I was a tosser long before I had any airline status!

Back on topic, being a typical middle-aged Aussie male who used to think personal grooming consisted of only shaving and trimming the nostril hairs, I find that on long haul flights using a moistuoriser (see, I can't even spell it!) can help with feeling fresher and less dehydrated on arrival.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

A 'tosser' last week refused to co-operate when the cabin crew who asked him to put his hand luggage in the overlead locker for take-off amongst other things he told the cabin crew "I travel all the time, you don't know what you're ******* talking about" blah blah blah.

End result was one less pax on a BNE/PER flight.

Tossers come in all shapes & sizes, some have status some don't. This particular one was a WP & CEO of a construction company.

At the end of the day somebody who displays that kind of behaviour you don't want on an aeroplane in any seat but particularly not an exit row.

 

[TonyHancock]

Back on topic, being a typical middle-aged Aussie male who used to think personal grooming consisted of only shaving and trimming the nostril hairs, I find that on long haul flights using a moistuoriser (see, I can't even spell it!) can help with feeling fresher and less dehydrated on arrival.

Thank god I'm not the only one!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Please tell me that your irritation at said tossers actually makes you any safer on an aircraft, given your power of influence in this situation is nil. I'm ok with it because I understand that me being not ok with it has no influence on the outcome. Unless you intend to lobby the powers that be to change the system, getting all irritated serves no useful purpose.

(bolding mine)

I once reported to the crew a guy sitting by the overwing exit to who fell asleep while we were taxiing! They promptly woke him up and told him to be reseated. He was not a happy camper. I only reported it because it was my closest emergency exit.

 

[dajop]

It erks me like you wouldn't believe when I say pax reading during thre pre-flight safety briefing.

Is this the prerecorded general plane pre-flight safety briefing, or is this the very specific exit row briefing given by flight attendants? If the recorded briefing, I can't recall anything on most airlines that provide specific instructions as to what to do if you are sitting in an exit row, so would lump that into the argument about people listening to safety briefings or not. However if the latter, it is critical to know how to open the exit, know not to open it if fire smoke outside the exit, follow crew instructions etc ... and not listening to that I would be more concerned about. And it's impossible to tell based on physical appearances whether someone will be useful or not during a real emergency (other than those who do have mobility issues).