QF Lounge Access on AA Codeshare

[dfcatch]

Hi guys,

Question to all the AA afficionados out there.......

Having potentially caught the AAdvantage bug, was just having a look at QF lounge access policies particularly for Int F and J lounges.

I may be reading it wrong but it seems to be that even if you are flying in F, you do not have access to the F or J lounges if you are on the AA codeshare (obviously its QF metal)..??

BTW - I do know that QF WPs have access as it's a OW flight number, but non QF-WPs don't seem to......(so assume I mean an F passenger with no status, or only AA status).

Have I got this wrong..??

It seems that if it's not the QF flight number - then no access....

 

[drewbles]

Hi guys,

Question to all the AA afficionados out there.......

Having potentially caught the AAdvantage bug, was just having a look at QF lounge access policies particularly for Int F and J lounges.

I may be reading it wrong but it seems to be that even if you are flying in F, you do not have access to the F or J lounges if you are on the AA codeshare (obviously its QF metal)..??

BTW - I do know that QF WPs have access as it's a OW flight number, but non QF-WPs don't seem to......(so assume I mean an F passenger with no status, or only AA status).

Have I got this wrong..??

It seems that if it's not the QF flight number - then no access....

If flying F or J, you should have access to an F or J lounge, regardless of it being codeshare. The LAX lounge (at TBIT) is a OneWorld Lounge, and the T4 Lounge (A/C) is a co-branded QF/AA lounge. The F/L in T4 is an AA lounge, so if flying international F from T4 you should have access to here.

The lack-of-access for AA status members only applies to domestic and certain other short-haul international routes.

If you're flying in F/J on an AA code on QF metal, you should have access to the appropriate lounge.

 

[dfcatch]

If flying F or J, you should have access to an F or J lounge, regardless of it being codeshare. The LAX lounge (at TBIT) is a OneWorld Lounge, and the T4 Lounge (A/C) is a co-branded QF/AA lounge. The F/L in T4 is an AA lounge, so if flying international F from T4 you should have access to here.

The lack-of-access for AA status members only applies to domestic and certain other short-haul international routes.

If you're flying in F/J on an AA code on QF metal, you should have access to the appropriate lounge.

Thanks Drewbles - that's what I thought.

Specifically I was thinking about an ex-SYD flight in F or J on QF metal but with an AA codeshare flight number (for a family member with no status - perhaps doing a challenge).

I just called QF and got two different answers - QF Premium said "yes you can access the lounge even if on the AA flight number".
Called the SYD F lounge and they checked with a supervisor and said "NO - you have to have the QF flight number on your BP".

 

[NM]

As the flight is both operated (QF metal) and marketed (AA flight number) by OneWorld airlines, the OneWorld lounge access rules apply. So if travelling in J or F you have access to any OneWorld J or F lounge respectively, and if you hold Sapphire or Emerald OneWorld status you also have access to any OneWorld J or F lounge respectively.

The Qantas Club lounge at SYD International terminal is a One World Business Class lounge. The Qantas First Class Lounge at SYD International Terminal is a OneWorld First Class lounge.

So if you meet the criteria (J or F boarding pass or OW Sapphire or Emerald status) then you have access to the QF lounges at SYD.

 

[dfcatch]

As the flight is both operated (QF metal) and marketed (AA flight number) by OneWorld airlines, the OneWorld lounge access rules apply. So if travelling in J or F you have access to any OneWorld J or F lounge respectively, and if you hold Sapphire or Emerald OneWorld status you also have access to any OneWorld J or F lounge respectively.

The Qantas Club lounge at SYD International terminal is a One World Business Class lounge. The Qantas First Class Lounge at SYD International Terminal is a OneWorld First Class lounge.

So if you meet the criteria (J or F boarding pass or OW Sapphire or Emerald status) then you have access to the QF lounges at SYD.

Thanks NM....

I guess the confusion comes from whether "operated and marketed" means the operating and marketing carrier have to be both OneWorld (but can be different), or whether the marketing and operating carrier have to be one and the same (and obviously OneWorld).

Thanks for the confirmation guys...

 

[NM]

I guess the confusion comes from whether "operated and marketed" means the operating and marketing carrier have to be both OneWorld (but can be different), or whether the marketing and operating carrier have to be one and the same (and obviously OneWorld).

Both must be OneWorld airlines and no requirement to be the same OneWorld airline. The Qantas lounge staff a very good at knowing and correctly interpreting the access rules.

 

[serfty]

Class of Travel

International First Lounge

Qantas International First

Next onward flight that day must be on a Qantas or British Airways flight number.
One guest permitted.​

That published access rule is a bit glib. In fact it's contradictory as it means that a First Class BP with a QF flight number is required (otherwise you would not be a "Qantas International First [class]" passenger); how could you have a BA flight number?

At the very least it cannot apply to AA flight numbers.

The rule is written on the oneworld web site: (oneworld - Lounge Access)

Lounge Access by Class of Travel

Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).

If you show an outbound First Class boarding Pass at the SYD F/L for AA7363, AA7365 or AA7381 you are eligible get "Class of Service" based access.

 

[dfcatch]

That published access rule is a bit glib. In fact it's contradictory as it means that a First Class BP with a QF flight number is required (otherwise you would not be a "Qantas International First [class]" passenger); how could you have a BA flight number?

At the very least it cannot apply to AA flight numbers.

The rule is written on the oneworld web site: (oneworld - Lounge Access)

If you show an outbound First Class boarding Pass at the SYD F/L for AA7363, AA7365 or AA7381 you are eligible get "Class of Service" based access.

Thanks Serfty,

I was confused both by the published QF Lounge Access Policy as well as the different responses from QF staff - especially when the F Lounge staff and Premium Desk staff are usually so helpful

Now to dedicate my thinking back to all things AAdvantage.......

 

[drron]

When I was EXP travelling in J on the AA codeshare to LAX/JFK I was admitted to the SYD Flounge with mrsdrron.

 

[docjames]

When I was EXP travelling in J on the AA codeshare to LAX/JFK I was admitted to the SYD Flounge with mrsdrron.

But mrsdrron is Wp isnt she? So allowed one guest?

 

[drron]

But mrsdrron is Wp isnt she? So allowed one guest?

Not when I was EXP.