Passenger 'assaults child who kicked her seat'

[harvyk]

Passenger 'assaults child who kicked her seat' | News.com.au

I'm a little surprised this doesn't happen more often...

 

[simongr]

I don't think anyone would get that close to my boy to be able to do that without my hands being on their throat very quickly...

 

[kyle]

It's also very annoying to see parents who couldn't control their kids.

 

[Katie]

Wow. Touch my child - no way. Tell them to stop it if they're kicking you - sure, but only using words, not by touching them.

 

[simongr]

It's also very annoying to see parents who couldn't control their kids.

I completely agree - there are no bad children only bad parents...

 

[oz_mark]

I don't think anyone would get that close to my boy to be able to do that without my hands being on their throat very quickly...

You would have stopped your boy kicking the seat in front?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Great to see posts in response to this story (and other that have been reported) how parents would immediately inflict violence themselves. How do they even let their child get in the position to cause the situation? I guess this is where the child learns the anti-social behaviour is acceptable.

We supposed live in a civilised society. The answer to one crime is not another (whether we like it or not the law says so!)

 

[under the radar]

Great to see posts in response to this story (and other that have been reported) how parents would immediately inflict violence themselves. How do they even let their child get in the position to cause the situation? I guess this is where the child learns the anti-social behaviour is acceptable.

We supposed live in a civilised society. The answer to one crime is not another (whether we like it or not the law says so!)

love these posts as well... so called 'parenting' has alot to answer for!!!! humans are not born 'little devils or angels'... its a learned behaviour!!

 

[simongr]

You would have stopped your boy kicking the seat in front?

Yes - of course.

Great to see posts in response to this story (and other that have been reported) how parents would immediately inflict violence themselves. How do they even let their child get in the position to cause the situation? I guess this is where the child learns the anti-social behaviour is acceptable.

We supposed live in a civilised society. The answer to one crime is not another (whether we like it or not the law says so!)

A natural parenting reaction should be to protect their child - I did not advocate starting a brawl - but I certainly would physically restrain someone from touching my child.

 

[under the radar]

Yes - of course.



A natural parenting reaction should be to protect their child - I did not advocate starting a brawl - but I certainly would physically restrain someone from touching my child.

let me point out i dont condone violence.... the main fact is that it should never have gotten to the stage of the adult pax touching the child pax... PARENTS take responsibily for your kids please!!!!

 

[anat0l]

It probably was not right for the lady to shake the child.

On the other hand, what options do you have when diplomacy breaks down and the FAs concede there is nothing they can do? (Of course, in this case, the lady did not try diplomatic means first - a fault on her part - so my question should be taken in general context).

In fact, what would you do if it was an adult who was putting their feet on your seat back, or kicking your seat (I wouldn't know why, but let's just say you had a bit of an argument pre-boarding)? Surely you can't pick up the adult, shake him/her and plonk him/her back down expecting them to sit still (esp. without perhaps expecting a "favour" in return fire).

Suing the lady who did the shaking is probably much, unless the child sustained real physical injuries.

 

[burrco]

Knowing that the media, esp. News Limited, are very acurate and diligent about any airline related stories, I'm slightly confused about a few issues.

Why did all the parties get back on the plane? Wouldn't the parents of the child want to press charges? Getting to Vegas more important? In fact shouldn't the alleged attacker have been held for some sort of questioning?

No charges have been laid as the police are looking for witnesses. What happened to the passengers involved in the onboard argument? The person next to the alleged attacker didn't notice when his/her seatmate leaned over and shook the kid behind them? What happens on the plane to Vegas, stays on the plane to Vegas?

No excuse for touching/shaking/assaulting a child, even if they are a brat, as that is never acceptable - but the whole thing reads like a press release from the parent's lawyer. How long before the lawsuit involves Southwest for allowing the conditions to occur where a drunk passenger could assault the child?

 

[JohnK]

Nothing wrong with having a word with the child's parents. We, adults, do not have any right to assault other people's children unless four 13-15 years old are assaulting you early in the morning at Rockdale station (sad story that one).

How do they even let their child get in the position to cause the situation? I guess this is where the child learns the anti-social behaviour is acceptable.

We supposed live in a civilised society. The answer to one crime is not another (whether we like it or not the law says so!)

And continue the anti-social behaviour well into adulthood.

I do not understand how parents let their kids behave this way? Supervise your children at all times. They are your responsibility. Don't parents teach kids right from wrong? No child of mine is ever going to behave like that in public.

 

[harvyk]

Knowing that the media, esp. News Limited, are very acurate and diligent about any airline related stories,

- you can say that again...

I think we are only getting part of the story, and certainly the part which puts one party into a better light than the other...

Either way I know that kids on flights has been discussed many times here, and I myself have been on a flight where if it was any longer I would have probably made the kid behind me stop kicking the seat one way or another as the parent was unwilling to control their child...

If a parent makes a genuine effort to keep their kids under control, but fail, I'm not going to have a go at the parent. If however the parent makes no attempt I will happily let rip towards the parent until they get the message that they need to control their kids.

 

[odysseus]

Here's the response from the other side side of the story:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/apr/10/nevada-woman-denies-assaulting-boy-on-sw-jet/

I was also surprised at the earlier posts in the thread. If my child was assaulting others and I did not step in to prevent it, then I wouldn't be surprised for someone else to deal with the issue. The issue in this case is that the child was kicking the seat and not restrained from doing so.

If a parent is negligent in taking care of their children, it is understandable that others step in to do so.

 

[ejb]

Hi all,

Getting physical in any situation is never the answer.

The pax should have had words with the parents and if this failed take it up with the crew but talking/touching the child was never going to be the correct way.

We should remember however that this is the LOTFAP and "reason" does not always come into play.

I do not like children but have never had a problem I could not sort out with the parent in 1 minute on board a plane.

ejb

 

[bossreggie]

I had a similar situation on a flight from MEL - BNE a couple of years back. In my instance the "child" was around 6 or 8 years old. I asked the parents very nicely to control their child. The bumping and kicking continued despite my requests. When we arrived in BNE I 'accidentally' jammed the little sh!ts hand with my carry on bag when removing it from the overhead locker. I must admit I felt better!

 

[samh004]

I'm a little surprised this doesn't happen more often...

Me too actually, perhaps a wake up call to parents of spoiled brats, it’s just not on!

I don't think anyone would get that close to my boy to be able to do that without my hands being on their throat very quickly...

As long as you stopped your boy from doing it in the first place, it wouldn’t happen. but if you were like many slack parents… bring it on!!

It's also very annoying to see parents who couldn't control their kids.

Which bring us back to the start, that it’s surprising this hasn’t happened more often.

The mother is suing the woman over the incident.

Oh, how American.

While I don’t agree with adults manhandling children, and I was by someone not in my family when I was young, if she couldn’t control her child, assuming he wasn’t hurt, he got what he deserved and hopefully has learnt his lesson. shame it took another member of society to teach him. Can someone call social services and have him removed please?

When we arrived in BNE I 'accidentally' jammed the little sh!ts hand with my carry on bag when removing it from the overhead locker. I must admit I felt better!

He’d never learn if you didn’t make the point to connect the dots for him.

 

[bossreggie]

He’d never learn if you didn’t make the point to connect the dots for him.

I was never going to see him again. This was totally for MY satisfaction.

 

[ejb]

I was never going to see him again. This was totally for MY satisfaction.

There is nothing like self gratification

ejb