Does flying on Business/first entitle you to be entitled?

[SOPOOR]

So most of us have probably have seen YouTube videos of passengers behaving badly being entitled demanding special treatment etc.

I've seen rich people behave rather entitled, you can be entitled, rude and demanding with out getting kicked off a plane/private jet


If your shower on board didn't have hot water, or you were served water in a plastic or even worse paper cup, didnt have French champagne, flight attendants not come running within 20 seconds, have your soy/almond/oats milk for your coffee

I think most people will want to choose "Yes, you can expect but if you dont get it, first world problems" to be political correct/safe.

I am a mixture of "Yes, you can expect but if you dont get it, first world problems" and "yes/no: i am unsure of the etiquette"

 

[esseeeayeenn]

So most of us have probably have seen YouTube videos of passengers behaving badly being entitled demanding special treatment etc.

I've seen rich people behave rather entitled, you can be entitled, rude and demanding with out getting kicked off a plane/private jet


If your shower on board didn't have hot water, or you were served water in a plastic or even worse paper cup, didnt have French champagne, flight attendants not come running within 20 seconds, have your soy/almond/oats milk for your coffee

I think most people will want to choose "Yes, you can expect but if you dont get it, first world problems" to be political correct/safe.

I am a mixture of "Yes, you can expect but if you dont get it, first world problems" and "yes/no: i am unsure of the etiquette"

I don't think anyone is entitled to be rude or obnoxious.
Staff deserve to be treated with respect, by everyone.
That is not negotiable.

However, consumers are entitled to expect to receive the goods and/or services they paid for.
And to express their dissatisfaction if they don't.
But this doesn't entitle them to b.e rude to staff.

In m view it is acceptable to express your dissatisfaction: once.
However if the cabin crew can't offer a solution, it's time to be quiet for the rest of the flight, and complain to management later.

Incidentally, all champagne is French.
Anything else is simply not champagne.

 

[Noah Count]

I will sit in the 'Other' category, I/we (family) have flown many times in F mostly QF, EK, SQ etc. and will use points if I can find the rewards however I also use cash depending on the route and carrier. Do I expect a lot more from F and the simple answer is no, as on most airlines J is comfortable and for many years we had access to the OW carrier F lounges. Also it can come down to the crew, often F may be a step above J but everyone has off days and I see no need to complain. Just my thoughts.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Incidentally, all champagne is French.
Anything else is simply not champagne.

Aside, of course, from Californian Champagne

 

[lovestotravel]

I don't think anyone is entitled to be rude or obnoxious.
Staff deserve to be treated with respect, by everyone.
That is not negotiable.

However, consumers are entitled to expect to receive the goods and/or services they paid for.
And to express their dissatisfaction if they don't.
But this doesn't entitle them to b.e rude to staff.

In m view it is acceptable to express your dissatisfaction: once.
However if the cabin crew can't offer a solution, it's time to be quiet for the rest of the flight, and complain to management later.

Incidentally, all champagne is French.
Anything else is simply not champagne.

Agree 100%

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Aside, of course, from Californian Champagne

That's an oxymoron.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That's an oxymoron.

But legal, and enshrined by agreement

 

[esseeeayeenn]

But legal, and enshrined by agreement

It will never be champagne, it doesn't have the terroir.
I used to think that was pretentious nonsense, but I've learned better.

Also, now you've prompted me to research it, according to the agreement, "California Champagne" must be labelled as such: it cannot simply be called "champagne". I note that this was a concession in favour of only 3 Californian wineries which marketed their sparkling wine as "champagne" prior to 2006, and it was a concession forced on EU negotiators to get the US to sign the deal at all.

I can't start a poll in a post, but I wonder how many of us would be happy if we were booked in F on QF, and they served us "California Champagne"?
Noting that QFd serves domestic sparkling, pretending it is to be patriotic, but QFi doesn't dare run with that excuse.

 

[Forg]

I don’t have any particular love for the flavours which are specific to a bubbly made in the Champagne region (I’ve had Tassie bubblies which I enjoyed more than whatever the fancy champagne my wife likes which EK was serving in F), so I would care absolutely zero if they gave me a “California Champagne” to try.

But that’s a really specific thing, someone mentioned the shower not working - never having used one, I’d be annoyed if I’d planned to use one & it wasn’t working, and I’d defo ask crew whether there was anything that could be done about it. Not rudely, there’s little excuse for being rude in most situations, but I’d expect everything I’d paid for to be available.